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JaguarEtype
08-26-2005, 08:27 AM
On August 26, 2005 Jaguar North America revealed details of its eagerly anticipated new sports car – the all-new 2007 Jaguar XK.

Making its world premiere next month at the Frankfurt International Auto Show in Germany, the all-new Jaguar XK will go on sale in North America next spring as a 2007 model year product.

The all-new Jaguar XK is the first of a new generation of cars that reflect the best of everything that Jaguar is associated with – from gorgeous, contemporary design to renowned craftsmanship and quality, alongside the latest

driver-focused technologies – and, of course, exhilarating performance.

Light and agile, the all-new Jaguar XK accelerates faster, stops quicker than the previous generation, steel-bodied XK8 and has exceptional dynamic abilities, as Jaguar's Chief Engineer Mike Cross, explains: "The XK may be the epitome of sporting elegance but it is also a true driver's car in which we have managed to combine a very special balance of superb driving dynamics and comfort."

Traditional Jaguar craftsmanship elements have been retained on the all-new Jaguar XK, but it's the use of aerospace technologies that have resulted in the most technically advanced Jaguar production car ever created.

One of the key elements of the all-new Jaguar XK is the use of latest technologies including Jaguar’s industry-leading aluminum body structures and rivet bonding techniques, both recently introduced in the construction of Jaguar's full-size XJ sedan. Both techniques make the XJ sedan significantly lighter and stronger than its competitors, which benefits handling and fuel economy.

Jaguar design director Ian Callum describes the XK as having 'clean lines, a purposeful stance and exquisite proportions'.

"The fundamental values of Jaguar design do not change," explains Callum. "We took influences from our heritage and evolved them to produce a car that is beautiful, visually fast yet undeniably modern – just as Sir William Lyon's (Jaguar founder) own designs were in their day."

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Stats:
4.2L V8 300BHP (no torque figures as of yet)
0-60mph in 5.9 sec
top speed 155mph (limited)
Quater mile 14.4
weight 3500lb
RWD with 6-speed auto

well i suppose it was about time, the old XK8 has been fending off the turf for years
still another stunner by jaguar (and just when i was worried about running out of fresh desktop images)

davide
08-26-2005, 08:35 AM
Mm, yes we like!

what suprise me is the 300 bhp from a 4.2l V8... isn't that quite weak for a motor that big?

JaguarEtype
08-26-2005, 08:40 AM
yeah as i said no torque figs, still the exceleration is up there with other sports cars of its class, but i was suprised its not 400+ considering thats the direction the rest of the jaguar range is heading

Gnome
08-26-2005, 08:46 AM
Yes, I think the engine is week, but there will of course be a XKR with more grunt. I would estimate 450 bhp?

Looks a lot like the last concept, but without some of the fancy details. (Not surprisingly?) My first impression is that those lights are a mistake. Apart from that the car is elegant with it's clean lines. Beautiful, but a bit too boring? Or am I too picky???

Neema702
08-26-2005, 09:59 AM
yea... there will def. be an XKR, and thats whats going to have the kind of HP jaguar has been moving towards. but id still put the figure at aorund 400 for the R.

RC45
08-26-2005, 10:54 AM
Wow - the Ford Probe sure has grown up :P

skituner
08-26-2005, 11:01 AM
6 speed auto???
what bunch of pussies

RAMMIUS
08-26-2005, 12:08 PM
well it looks nice , but let`s see the prices :)

topgeartom
08-26-2005, 12:19 PM
Absolutely gorgeous.

On the downside, the value of our car will go down when this is released!

ferrarif1fan89
08-26-2005, 12:26 PM
i cant beleive! theres no j-gate! and the interior doesnt look like the queen's liqor cabinet! its a miracle!

twboy1999
08-26-2005, 02:27 PM
exterior is ok

but pretty dissapointed in the interior

looks like acura TL

Sir_GT
08-26-2005, 04:59 PM
I agree with anyone and everyone who said that it's dull. Because it is. Absolutely uninspired.

1zippo1
08-26-2005, 05:01 PM
I like the looks of it. I think Jaguar and Aston Martin coupé's are improving style-wise since they're being owned by Ford (Ford's still don't though :P just look at the new Focus). But we've allready seen pics of this car half a year ago and now it seems it's only going to be launched in 2007. IMO that's a marketing blunder, the magic and newness is over by 2007 you know. They're making the same mistake with that AMV8.

Oh and one more thing, I really hope it's not going to be heavier then they announced.

|Nuno|
08-26-2005, 05:06 PM
When I look at the car I don't think "Jaguar"; I think Hyundai or Kya. And that's not a good thing. :|

topgeartom
08-26-2005, 06:02 PM
When I look at the car I don't think "Jaguar"; I think Hyundai or Kya. And that's not a good thing. :|

If you look at the lights then maybe yes. but study the car on a whole, the shape and lines are classic XK, a flowing evolution of the e-types curves. It only looks slightly like a hyundai because hyundai amalgomated the design features of the best looking coupes and sports cars around when they made the Coupe. Theres bits of ferrari 456 thrown in, and the shape is knicked from an xk. the name itself is hardly unique, its the most base generic term for that style of car, nothing about it is original, and simply because it is newer than the previous XK doesn not mean the 2007 version has copied hyundai design cues.

Its an evolution from the 97' XK, which itself has a bloodline right back to the E-type when the likes of hyundai were still sitting on their hands staring at a wall, and when kia had only got round to making pushbikes.

It looks like classic jag through and through, and i think its drop dead gorgeous. :D

RC45
08-26-2005, 06:37 PM
Oh - it's only 300 odd hp?

Pathetic - they are about 150hp and 5 years to late to join the 300hp party... someone needs to let them know that generic Korean SUV's ship with 300hp :P

antonioledesma
08-26-2005, 06:48 PM
Dull and absolutely uninspired like all bmw's :mrgreen:

IMO looks good, but needed something more, not the talk of Tom...

"flowing evolution..."
"hyundai amalgomated..."
" the name itself is hardly unique"
"most base generic term"
"bloodline right back to the E-type"

sorry Tom... but seems I was reading/listening to a poshy and cultural-wanna-be in an art show :P
stopo watching those cultural and art shows. They spoil you not allowing you to express correctly "crickey, drop dead..., bloddy" :P
:wink:

loliea
08-26-2005, 07:07 PM
Is it a Jaguar? The front lights are really ugly (Hyundai?) and the interior is not Jag at all: lots of plastic which I bet will be bad quality...

HeilSvenska
08-26-2005, 07:39 PM
Oohh...all of you make such good points. I have to say, it's not as striking as the concept and the concept ruined the element of "surprise!", but it think it looks fine, if not great. It has all the proper proportions (at least on the pictures). all the details look fine and the shape is really pleasing. but i'll still have to look at it with my own eyes...and touch the sheetmetal...that always sends tingles to my brain...

the cabin looks great

...that 4.2 badge looks absolutely cheap...oops, from another picture not posted here

topgeartom
08-26-2005, 07:40 PM
Dull and absolutely uninspired like all bmw's :mrgreen:

IMO looks good, but needed something more, not the talk of Tom...

"flowing evolution..."
"hyundai amalgomated..."
" the name itself is hardly unique"
"most base generic term"
"bloodline right back to the E-type"

sorry Tom... but seems I was reading/listening to a poshy and cultural-wanna-be in an art show :P
stopo watching those cultural and art shows. They spoil you not allowing you to express correctly "crickey, drop dead..., bloddy" :P
:wink:

just because your weened up on a mix of shit american telly doesnt mean its wrong to use decent english every now and then.

HeilSvenska
08-26-2005, 08:36 PM
good news, Top Gear Magazine will include a promotional DVD in the October issue...but of course, the readers in US will probably not get them.

SL55 AMG
08-26-2005, 08:39 PM
It doesnt really grab me at all. IMO it is not that stylish, the DB9 looks much better and for the price of this car, i dont see how anyone could consider it, theres nothing 'special' about it unless you love Jags. Thats just me talking but I wont completly bash it until its reviews

antonioledesma
08-26-2005, 08:48 PM
just because your weened up on a mix of shit american telly doesnt mean its wrong to use decent english every now and then.

no, don't watch too much american telly, but more than british. I only get BBC world here and... omg... infinite channels with american shows.
If you really write like that, I would gladly read more of your works. It's always nice to read more word than "niiice, great dude" and everything I post
:mrgreen:

HeilSvenska
08-27-2005, 12:22 AM
the new XK site
http://newxk.keycast.com/keycast/jaguar/x150/main.asp?marketid=4&langid=2

you can check out different color options and stuff, but nothing too important
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/5335/xk2007coupe8midnightcarelia5cz.th.jpg (http://img387.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xk2007coupe8midnightcarelia5cz.jpg)
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/3811/sportsbivorypop3no.th.jpg (http://img387.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sportsbivorypop3no.jpg)

lovely looking thing
lovely details too
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v that's a fantastic piece of a photograph...if it's real that is...and i think it is
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/4003/extgall1280wallpaper04jpg11941.th.jpg (http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=extgall1280wallpaper04jpg11941.jpg)

antonioledesma
08-27-2005, 12:56 AM
it's a great site HeilSvenska
I'll stay there for some hours :mrgreen:

JaguarEtype
08-27-2005, 01:37 AM
the only thing wrong with the lights is the fact that they swoop back to make an angle (which is what incidently alot of jap car co's do) thus looking like a El-Cheapo jap car, if they had rounded them forward (like the old XKR or XK8) even though it would look the same it'd still be damn fine, ah well work in progress i guess
sadly they did the same theme with the tailights so that from the side they look like a number mercedes, however looking straight on the back their a bit of an eye catcher.
as for the interiror i was initially impressed by the design, big improvement from the over worked and confusing XKR, it just looks more refined... i just hope they didnt use plastic.....

Global Warming
08-27-2005, 01:43 AM
Love it! Obviously more engine power will come.

Wutputt
08-27-2005, 10:05 AM
I'm not too fond of the styling considering these pics. There are bit too much resemblenses with the latest AM designs. Maybe thats cause Ian Cullum designed it. It should have looked a bit more Jag.


i cant beleive! theres no j-gate!
I still can see the J-shape a bit ;) Though the 5-4-3-2 blocking points for the manual selection of the gears are replaced with a +/- paddles behind the steering wheel , like on the XK180.

Sir_GT
08-27-2005, 05:33 PM
just because your weened up on a mix of shit american telly doesnt mean its wrong to use decent english every now and then.

no, don't watch too much american telly, but more than british. I only get BBC world here and... omg... infinite channels with american shows.
If you really write like that, I would gladly read more of your works. It's always nice to read more word than "niiice, great dude" and everything I post
:mrgreen:

Your ignorance of European cultures shines like the sun, at noon, over the mexican desert.

There's nothing "posh" at all about crikey, bloody, and the rest of the UK-sourced expressions. The majority of the UK isn't what the Americans lead you to believe: i.e. posh, snobby, and ride horses with their noses turned up.

Maybe you should try travelling abroad sometime. You might just enjoy it.

Or your brain might just overdose on the reality of the real world, and you would just tip over and die.




Anyway, back to topic: Even after visiting the marketing machine-slash-website, my opinion still hasn't changed. It's dull. It's a big disappointment. It is just so glaringly obvious that Jaguar played it safe with the XK, just like Ford did with the new Focus, and ended up with something that isn't really sexy, doesn't really have any presence, and lacks any imagination at all.

It's a dull car. Period. And it's going to take a lot of effort from Top Gear and rest of the UK car magazines to sell this thing outside of the UK.

gucom
08-27-2005, 05:46 PM
sorry to disappoint you TGT, but hte front lights do remind me of a Hyundai's...and the rest does indeed remind me of Aston Martins, although the original XKR/XK8 also looked alot like the DB7.

like on the XK180.

now there's a car they should've produced, it was one of the best looking concepts ever!

topgeartom
08-27-2005, 05:47 PM
just because your weened up on a mix of shit american telly doesnt mean its wrong to use decent english every now and then.

no, don't watch too much american telly, but more than british. I only get BBC world here and... omg... infinite channels with american shows.
If you really write like that, I would gladly read more of your works. It's always nice to read more word than "niiice, great dude" and everything I post
:mrgreen:

Your ignorance of European cultures shines like the sun, at noon, over the mexican desert.

There's nothing "posh" at all about crikey, bloody, and the rest of the UK-sourced expressions. The majority of the UK isn't what the Americans lead you to believe: i.e. posh, snobby, and ride horses with their noses turned up.

Maybe you should try travelling abroad sometime. You might just enjoy it.

Or your brain might just overdose on the reality of the real world, and you would just tip over and die.




Anyway, back to topic: Even after visiting the marketing machine-slash-website, my opinion still hasn't changed. It's dull. It's a big disappointment. It is just so glaringly obvious that Jaguar played it safe with the XK, just like Ford did with the new Focus, and ended up with something that isn't really sexy, doesn't really have any presence, and lacks any imagination at all.

It's a dull car. Period. And it's going to take a lot of effort from Top Gear and rest of the UK car magazines to sell this thing outside of the UK.

wow, but who the hell was that aimed at?

topgeartom
08-27-2005, 05:50 PM
sorry to disappoint you TGT, but hte front lights do remind me of a Hyundai's...and the rest does indeed remind me of Aston Martins, although the original XKR/XK8 also looked alot like the DB7.

like on the XK180.

now there's a car they should've produced, it was one of the best looking concepts ever!

Aside from the hyundai bit, why does everyone seem to think that the fact it resembles an aston is a bad thing?

gucom
08-27-2005, 06:00 PM
well not per se cos astons are beautiful its jsut that...AM and jaguar (XK) are both ultra-british luxury sports cars, they should both have an own identity, also in looks i think...

topgeartom
08-27-2005, 06:04 PM
well not per se cos astons are beautiful its jsut that...AM and jaguar (XK) are both ultra-british luxury sports cars, they should both have an own identity, also in looks i think...

Fair point, but everything is becoming so similar these days that its almost impossible to take an indivudal look without the car looking a complete shower of shit. Just look at the new focus. the old version was so futuristic and modern in its design that it instantly set the trend, then every car in the sector copied it, so now the new one looks dull, and like it is a copy of all the other euro shitboxes tooling around these days

gobs3z
08-27-2005, 06:21 PM
Trying to bring a positive note, the guages are absolutey gorgeous as usual and they'll bring a supercharged version out with 390hp which is more than efficient for that car, but all in all i think it turned out the way it was supposed to, with a lot of elegance.

HeilSvenska
08-27-2005, 07:02 PM
gucom wrote:
sorry to disappoint you TGT, but hte front lights do remind me of a Hyundai's...and the rest does indeed remind me of Aston Martins, although the original XKR/XK8 also looked alot like the DB7.
Quote:

like on the XK180.


now there's a car they should've produced, it was one of the best looking concepts ever!


Aside from the hyundai bit, why does everyone seem to think that the fact it resembles an aston is a bad thing?


What's wrong with the Hyundai Coupé? Anyways, we, the buyers, have only ourselves to blame. In this cruel world of marketing wars, safety and environmental regulations, and undemanding buyers, the designers arerestrained from creating cars that actually matter, like they used to in the 60's and the 70's and so on.

I heard that Ian Cullum's first design proposal was more "Jaguar" and more radical, but the top-brass of Jaguar and Ford thought that it would scare off US buyers, so they went for what we have here.

JaguarEtype
08-27-2005, 09:32 PM
HeilSvenska

I heard that Ian Cullum's first design proposal was more "Jaguar" and more radical, but the top-brass of Jaguar and Ford thought that it would scare off US buyers, so they went for what we have here.


damn...still it makes you wish they did make the XK180.. or even the F-Type... what ever happend to that concept anyways........?? :?
but there is no denying that most cars companies are slowly blending in to each others styles except for porsche and range rover.. i dont think theyve changed in 30 years :lol:

antonioledesma
08-28-2005, 12:51 AM
just because your weened up on a mix of shit american telly doesnt mean its wrong to use decent english every now and then.

no, don't watch too much american telly, but more than british. I only get BBC world here and... omg... infinite channels with american shows.
If you really write like that, I would gladly read more of your works. It's always nice to read more word than "niiice, great dude" and everything I post
:mrgreen:

Your ignorance of European cultures shines like the sun, at noon, over the mexican desert.

There's nothing "posh" at all about crikey, bloody, and the rest of the UK-sourced expressions. The majority of the UK isn't what the Americans lead you to believe: i.e. posh, snobby, and ride horses with their noses turned up.

Maybe you should try travelling abroad sometime. You might just enjoy it.

Or your brain might just overdose on the reality of the real world, and you would just tip over and die.




Anyway, back to topic: Even after visiting the marketing machine-slash-website, my opinion still hasn't changed. It's dull. It's a big disappointment. It is just so glaringly obvious that Jaguar played it safe with the XK, just like Ford did with the new Focus, and ended up with something that isn't really sexy, doesn't really have any presence, and lacks any imagination at all.

It's a dull car. Period. And it's going to take a lot of effort from Top Gear and rest of the UK car magazines to sell this thing outside of the UK.

wow, but who the hell was that aimed at?

to me. But I'm trying to understand how my ignorance showed in my posts :?
maybe me with my ignorant english didn't make myself clear.

Sir_GT
08-28-2005, 02:38 PM
just because your weened up on a mix of shit american telly doesnt mean its wrong to use decent english every now and then.

no, don't watch too much american telly, but more than british. I only get BBC world here and... omg... infinite channels with american shows.
If you really write like that, I would gladly read more of your works. It's always nice to read more word than "niiice, great dude" and everything I post
:mrgreen:

Your ignorance of European cultures shines like the sun, at noon, over the mexican desert.

There's nothing "posh" at all about crikey, bloody, and the rest of the UK-sourced expressions. The majority of the UK isn't what the Americans lead you to believe: i.e. posh, snobby, and ride horses with their noses turned up.

Maybe you should try travelling abroad sometime. You might just enjoy it.

Or your brain might just overdose on the reality of the real world, and you would just tip over and die.




Anyway, back to topic: Even after visiting the marketing machine-slash-website, my opinion still hasn't changed. It's dull. It's a big disappointment. It is just so glaringly obvious that Jaguar played it safe with the XK, just like Ford did with the new Focus, and ended up with something that isn't really sexy, doesn't really have any presence, and lacks any imagination at all.

It's a dull car. Period. And it's going to take a lot of effort from Top Gear and rest of the UK car magazines to sell this thing outside of the UK.

wow, but who the hell was that aimed at?

Not at you matey. :)

topgeartom
08-28-2005, 02:45 PM
just because your weened up on a mix of shit american telly doesnt mean its wrong to use decent english every now and then.

no, don't watch too much american telly, but more than british. I only get BBC world here and... omg... infinite channels with american shows.
If you really write like that, I would gladly read more of your works. It's always nice to read more word than "niiice, great dude" and everything I post
:mrgreen:

Your ignorance of European cultures shines like the sun, at noon, over the mexican desert.

There's nothing "posh" at all about crikey, bloody, and the rest of the UK-sourced expressions. The majority of the UK isn't what the Americans lead you to believe: i.e. posh, snobby, and ride horses with their noses turned up.

Maybe you should try travelling abroad sometime. You might just enjoy it.

Or your brain might just overdose on the reality of the real world, and you would just tip over and die.




Anyway, back to topic: Even after visiting the marketing machine-slash-website, my opinion still hasn't changed. It's dull. It's a big disappointment. It is just so glaringly obvious that Jaguar played it safe with the XK, just like Ford did with the new Focus, and ended up with something that isn't really sexy, doesn't really have any presence, and lacks any imagination at all.

It's a dull car. Period. And it's going to take a lot of effort from Top Gear and rest of the UK car magazines to sell this thing outside of the UK.

wow, but who the hell was that aimed at?

Not at you matey. :)

lol! phew!

antonioledesma
08-28-2005, 03:00 PM
[Your ignorance of European cultures shines like the sun, at noon, over the mexican desert.

There's nothing "posh" at all about crikey, bloody, and the rest of the UK-sourced expressions. The majority of the UK isn't what the Americans lead you to believe: i.e. posh, snobby, and ride horses with their noses turned up.

Maybe you should try travelling abroad sometime. You might just enjoy it.

Or your brain might just overdose on the reality of the real world, and you would just tip over and die.

but please tell me where the hell I showed more of my real-world ignorance. Or my third-world-brownie brain does not tune your shit throwing posts??

or you are always that cocky and close-minded?
sorry your assholliness :roll:

gucom
08-28-2005, 03:12 PM
feel the love and the warmth just radiate from this peaceful forum where car lovers debate cars instead of the usual bickering that goes on at other places, but not here at JW...*utopia mode OFF*

topgeartom
08-28-2005, 03:39 PM
feel the love and the warmth just radiate from this peaceful forum where car lovers debate cars instead of the usual bickering that goes on at other places, but not here at JW...*utopia mode OFF*

Welcome back to earth.