hey thamar, why is the AGP faster than the PCI-E one?? isn't the later one got a higher BW??

yeah i've read now on guru3d about the X850XT and PE.. could you tell me what is the diff from Sapphire ver to others (the review i've read is HIS ver.. yes AGP..)
any info\recommendation about cooling as it seems i'll need to overclock my P4..
at the test they've done at guru3d they also used a 2.8 P4 but overclocked to 3.4 :shock: ..
http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/212/1/

edit- they also said that a 400W PSU is highly recommended..?

edit2- last minute!! my sister is flying to france tomorrow.. ( :x damn her!) she will be there for 18 days.. now if i want her to bring me my card i'll have to give her the exact name of what i need (so she wont come back with the wrong card and that will suck! big time!) she'll only be in paris.. any one knows what the prices are over there? and maybe a name of a store?
btw- this two offers look good (right?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...C-pr1c3grabb3r
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...C-pr1c3grabb3r

/\/\/\Get at least a 450W for the PSU :wink:

will do...
would you happend to know where can i find info on how to overclock my P4.. ?

What ram do you have? Dpending on the ram we'll have to set a divider in BIOS for you. Also have to know if your BIOS lets you set your ram speed.

newegg doesnt deliver outside the us :(
as for the rape... i have no idea.. they want some tax over i dont what sum.. but been israel.. :lol: lets just say i'm pretty sure it will slide in without any probs.. :lol: :wink:

btw- thanks for the offer thamar :) i find it hard to see my sis going to Belgium for me but if she'll have probs finding it and if she'll feel kind maybe i could talk her into it :) but thanks eathier way!

:) i have no idea what you've just said SFDMALEX..
how can i get you that info?

Download a program called CPU-Z. When you get it, run it, go to the motherboard tab write down the exact model of the board and your BIOS version.

:) thanks here is some mem info too..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...tal/Image1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...tal/Image2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...tal/Image3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...tal/Image4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...tal/Image5.jpg

btw- i found a PSU 450W (in israel :lol: ) for 15.5USD\18.5CAD\12.5EUR good price these days?

^What brand?? If it's no-name brand, it's about rite.

Generic... (?)

/\/\/\Its not a 450 :wink: Get a name brand mate. Like Enermax, or Antec or OCZ.


From the looks of that ram you wont be able to OC that high since the timings are pretty damn slow even @200mhz.

Enter your bios and look for a screen were you can set ram speed, or ram divider. The divider is a ratio value of ram to fsb. For example atm your at 1:1, in order for you to OC by 800mhz you will need to set the divider to 3:2.

So look in your bios for an entry called ram ratio, or ram speed, or anything to do with ram, and tell me what you see.

:? :cry: bad news.. so whats your saying is my ram sucks...
as for bios i'll check it all tomorrow.. it 2:22 over here and i have to be up in the morning..

good night

btw- for a later read.. could you tell me something about the ram, timing and whats what.. ? :)

edit- well i was gonna see if i can find something.. and the it was.. gave me option of 5,10,20,30%.. and under that there was a turbo something.. i'll right it all as it is tomorrow.. i setted it at 3.08GHz for now..

edit 2- well here it is (i just had to write it now.. :roll: )
in the bios->advanced->JumperFree Configuration
->AI Overclock Tuner-->manual,5%,10%,20%,30%.
->Performance Mode-->turbo (or something.. i forgot to write it down :oops: :lol:

Read about ram timings here.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1637834,00.asp

As for your bios, my friend has the same thing on his asus board, excpet his is an LGA775.

Run some tests on that overclock, do a Super PI 8mb test, and run Prime 95 or some other stress tests to see if its stable, if it is then you can OC further.