I have left the aluminium forks in for now... Folks that are very abusive to their tranny's have had to get the steel forks, ala-Viper, installed...

The CTS for 2004 and 2005 has an uprated version of the 3.6L V6 with 255bhp...it is indeed faster than the Honda Accord, though I think that it still looks pretty horrid and the build quality is somewhat lacking. The CTS-V is very nice, but again, it can't stand comparison to BMW in terms of build quality even if it does perform similarly to the E39 M5.

aw man, they are making all their cars look like that... i mean, its nice, but wheres the variety!?!?! I think they should've kept the STS how it was, and just did a RWD convert. then that car wouldve kicked ass. Is the Tremec a very good tranny? Did they use that in the Camaros/F-Birds? because on the Mustang forums, they are always saying how our T5 is far superiour to the Camaro/Bird trannys in reliability, and better gear ratios. However, I know the 6-speed provides excellent mileage, but I dont think they are the same tranny...

The interesting thing is that this topic was opened under the heading "STS-V caught at N-ring"...that's the STS-V not the CTS-V...makes me wonder if the STS is still front wheel drive in "V" trim. I certainly doubt it'll compete with anything larger like the 7 series or E or S-class in any trim, much less AMG tune.

We know it is the STS - the discussion moved to the CTS - please try keep up.. we know it is difficult for you Ford guys to understand more than 3 concepts at once - but jeees man... ;)

O i got the stats from the 03 CTS model, but a Accord Coupe will beat a 04/05 so im only partyly wrong 8) Anyways its becoming rather sad when alot of american domestic sedans can be smoked by a Honda Accord.

Hahaha...sorry about that man...didn't really see where the convo switched :-)

Sorry. atleast our Concepts get made.

Too little - too late... all you had was a couple dozen GT40's in the 60's - the 2000 Cobra R and now the $160,000+ GT... pales in comparison to having the defacto standard American Sports car for 51 years.. :P

No - wait... I almost forgot... you also had the Edsel.. my bad... :P

Hey hey...cool it guys...no need to get testy over this. GM has it's upsides and downsides as does Ford, and if you want to get even more involved, you could say that Chrysler does a better job getting its concepts produced than either Ford or GM.

Don't laugh RC, they are testing a V spec Escalade. I wish I saved the link. I subscribe to a auto manufacture insider newsletter and there are reports of V spec 'Slades driving around with either V-10 or V-12 engines. I think these vehicles are the next gen models.

lol... poor gm. as long as our 6' black rappers buy them, they may almost turn a profit....... naw

Anyone whos company makes a SS version of the Cavalier. Uhum Colbolt SS replacement for cavalier shouldnt talk thine shit.

The standard CTS with the new 3.6 liter V6 is still a quick car. 0-60 in the 6 second range and quarter mile just under 15 seconds. He'll give the accord a good run for the money :lol:

I thought I should change my argument a little...as it turns out, the STS is going to be on a new Rear-drive platform, so all that power WILL be going to the right place after all.