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TNT 02-02-2007 08:59 PM

PS3 price cut
 
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6165103.html

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Originally Posted by Gamespot.com
PS3 price cuts already being considered
Sony exec tells AP that reevaluating the price of the console is one of the back-to-profit strategies the games division is considering; no indication given of time frame.

By Emma Boyes, GameSpot UK
Posted Feb 1, 2007 4:22 am PT
This week, Sony announced that profits had fallen some 5.3 percent over last year in the company as a whole, with the games division suffering third-quarter losses of 54.2 billion yen (approx $455 million). Some had predicted that the company would suffer even greater losses. In a survey conducted by Bloomberg of five industry analysts, the median estimate was that the company would report a 50 percent loss.

Historically, the time period after a console's launch sees the parent company reporting a loss, a gamble that is intended to pay off when profits are recouped from software sales. Sony's senior vice president, Takao Yuhara, told the Associated Press that his company's loss could in fact be more than the 200 billion yen (approx $1.6 billion) that Sony has currently forecast for the financial year ending March.

Many of the costs associated with the PlayStation 3's launch were higher than anticipated, including advertising promotions and production delays that forced the company to use air rather than sea shipping.

Yuhara revealed that Sony's strategy was to have the games division breaking even by the end of the next fiscal year, March 2008. He told AP, ''Such factors, including price cuts to some extent, are factored in'' to the company's break-even plans. No date was given for when Sony would be considering making the cut or how much it would be slashing from the current price of $599 for the 60GB model (which will be 599 euros in Europe, £425 in the UK).

The company has already made the unusual move of cutting the PS3's price in Japan, where the console was launched on November 11, taking the 20GB version to 49,980 yen ($429), 10,000 yen ($85) less than previously slated. However, this move appeared to backfire, as it was slammed by some analysts, and the company's shares took a tumble after the announcement.


ae86_16v 02-02-2007 09:06 PM

Yeah, they need a price cut. I need a price cut so I could buy one ;) .

ViperASR 02-02-2007 09:48 PM

unless they are giving them away for free i'm still not gonna buy one. I'm happy as a clam with my (working) 360. I'm also thinking about getting a Wii. For the price of 1 PS3 I could buy both the 360 and the Wii.

TNT 02-03-2007 12:04 AM

^^^ and have some money left over.

RC45 02-03-2007 01:06 AM

I have used my PS3 more in the short time I have had it, than I have used the XBox360 over the last year.

Other than PGR3 and a few games of Fight Night3, the Xbox has not lived up to its hype.

The PS3 is useful and usable as a web browser, BluRay player and gaming system.

I'm upgrading the 20GB harddrive to a 120GB one this evening.. I can't even attach a USB device on to the XBox360. Oh - and no 1080p support either ;)

Max Power 02-03-2007 01:31 AM

i doubt that a 10% cut will increase demand that much...not until new GTA of GT5 comes out will i get one...or some good game...

ae86_16v 02-03-2007 04:03 AM

^ Yeah exactly. Better than nothing.

I am waiting for Grand Turismo and Metal Gear Solid. ;)

TNT 02-03-2007 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RC45
I have used my PS3 more in the short time I have had it, than I have used the XBox360 over the last year.

Other than PGR3 and a few games of Fight Night3, the Xbox has not lived up to its hype.

The PS3 is useful and usable as a web browser, BluRay player and gaming system.

I'm upgrading the 20GB harddrive to a 120GB one this evening.. I can't even attach a USB device on to the XBox360. Oh - and no 1080p support either ;)


ummm what are you talking about, i can understand that if you don't play one system over the other, but there is really only one game that is holding the hype of the 360 and that is Resistance. but even that nothing hasn't gotten the greatest reviews. Also a lot of games that were going to be just for the PS3 aren't anymore. Sony is going to fall.

RC45 02-03-2007 11:44 AM

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I have used my PS3 more in the short time I have had it, than I have used the XBox360 over the last year.

Other than PGR3 and a few games of Fight Night3, the Xbox has not lived up to its hype.

The PS3 is useful and usable as a web browser, BluRay player and gaming system.

I'm upgrading the 20GB harddrive to a 120GB one this evening.. I can't even attach a USB device on to the XBox360. Oh - and no 1080p support either ;)


ummm what are you talking about, i can understand that if you don't play one system over the other, but there is really only one game that is holding the hype of the 360 and that is Resistance. but even that nothing hasn't gotten the greatest reviews. Also a lot of games that were going to be just for the PS3 aren't anymore. Sony is going to fall.

What I am talkign about is how the XBox360 has not lived up to the hype - it is not the entertainment device M$ claimed it would be, even almost a year after I bought it there is nothing you can do with it besides play games.

No web browsing, no backup ability, no external hard drive support, no keyboard support etc etc etc.

After careful analysis it turns out to be ntohing more than a very expensive XBox.. which is a pity, as it could have been the hub of home entertainment, much like the PS3 is turning into.

The upside is that the XBox360 sees so little use it may end up lasting longer than the PS3 - if only because its never actually turned on... ;) :P

twboy1999 02-03-2007 12:33 PM

most of the store here in canada has raise the price

haha

from 659 to 700 cdn

thats going to help sell it better :lol: :lol:

RC45 02-03-2007 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by twboy1999
most of the store here in canada has raise the price

haha

from 659 to 700 cdn

thats going to help sell it better :lol: :lol:

Perhaps because in socialist Canada, really good things are simply price high otherwise they won't sell? ;)

Max Power 02-03-2007 01:19 PM

meh, the us is only an hour and half drive... :wink:
i've decided to do all my electornic purchases there

ViperASR 02-03-2007 02:28 PM

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the Xbox has not lived up to its hype
The record breaking sales says something different to me. Obviously we look for something else in a gaming system, and considering the PS3 is already talking about a price drop after a few months, while the 360 has been out a year longer and is still selling pretty strong, I would say the Xbox has lived up to the hype for alot of people.

I'm happy with mine, as I only use it for gaming, and not surfing the net and such, thats what I have a computer for :wink: . idk, to each his own i guess

RC45 02-03-2007 02:38 PM

The point is M$ hyped the XBox360 as the "core of the entertainment", not "just a gaing console" - and it has never risen above being anything except a gaing concole.

ae86_16v 02-03-2007 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RC45
The point is M$ hyped the XBox360 as the "core of the entertainment", not "just a gaing console" - and it has never risen above being anything except a gaing concole.

Well a lot of companies have marketed their system as an Entertainment System instead of a gaming system. Sony's been doing that since the PS2.

I never used my PS2 except for games.

I don't about about the PS3 yet since I haven't picked one up. But I think personally my priorities would still to get the best gaming system out there.

RC45 02-03-2007 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ae86_16v
But I think personally my priorities would still to get the best gaming system out there.

It's called a PC, and you can customize it just the way you want ;) :P

TNT 02-03-2007 03:18 PM

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But I think personally my priorities would still to get the best gaming system out there.

It's called a PC, and you can customize it just the way you want ;) :P

yet you can say that the roots of gaming are on consoles not PCs. sure arcades is were it all started but that is a "console". as ViperASR said to each his own.

RC45 02-03-2007 03:22 PM

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But I think personally my priorities would still to get the best gaming system out there.

It's called a PC, and you can customize it just the way you want ;) :P

yet you can say that the roots of gaming are on consoles not PCs. sure arcades is were it all started but that is a "console". as ViperASR said to each his own.

Notice how defensive the XBox crowd get ;)

ae86_16v 02-03-2007 03:32 PM

^ Haha. . .

TNT 02-03-2007 03:59 PM

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But I think personally my priorities would still to get the best gaming system out there.

It's called a PC, and you can customize it just the way you want ;) :P

yet you can say that the roots of gaming are on consoles not PCs. sure arcades is were it all started but that is a "console". as ViperASR said to each his own.

Notice how defensive the XBox crowd get ;)


no i am just saying that what has the PS3 shown that is any where close to its hype? the 360 lived up to most of its hype.

SFDMALEX 02-03-2007 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Power
meh, the us is only an hour and half drive... :wink:
i've decided to do all my electornic purchases there

Does the cost of the trip, and your time spent on it worth it? Just asking cause if its still cheaper I might aswel do the same.

acmarttin 02-03-2007 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RC45
The point is M$ hyped the XBox360 as the "core of the entertainment", not "just a gaing console" - and it has never risen above being anything except a gaing concole.

That may be true, but I don't know anybody who bought a 360 to be the "core of their entertainment system."

I bought mine to play next-gen games, and it does. So I'm satisfied.

Max Power 02-03-2007 04:33 PM

PS3 - USA - 600USD
PS3 - CAD - 700CAD

Max Power 02-03-2007 04:58 PM

Panasonic 42" Widescreen Plasma HDTV (TH42PX60)

2,200 CAD
1,600 USD

RC45 02-03-2007 11:18 PM

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But I think personally my priorities would still to get the best gaming system out there.

It's called a PC, and you can customize it just the way you want ;) :P

yet you can say that the roots of gaming are on consoles not PCs. sure arcades is were it all started but that is a "console". as ViperASR said to each his own.

Notice how defensive the XBox crowd get ;)


no i am just saying that what has the PS3 shown that is any where close to its hype? the 360 lived up to most of its hype.

Actualy it has delivered exactly what it promised.

Next generation gaming, next gen movies, proper USB support, HDMI out the box and native internet browsing capabilities.. ;)

As I say, we have used the PS3 non-stop since we bought it - the XBox360 practicly never gets used.

TNT 02-04-2007 12:12 AM

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But I think personally my priorities would still to get the best gaming system out there.

It's called a PC, and you can customize it just the way you want ;) :P

yet you can say that the roots of gaming are on consoles not PCs. sure arcades is were it all started but that is a "console". as ViperASR said to each his own.

Notice how defensive the XBox crowd get ;)


no i am just saying that what has the PS3 shown that is any where close to its hype? the 360 lived up to most of its hype.

Actualy it has delivered exactly what it promised.

Next generation gaming, next gen movies, proper USB support, HDMI out the box and native internet browsing capabilities.. ;)

As I say, we have used the PS3 non-stop since we bought it - the XBox360 practicly never gets used.


again to each his own :P

SFDMALEX 02-04-2007 03:11 PM

I dont get nuthuggers...

Its ok to have something and admit thats its shit... Why defend it?

Like 360s and Macs are shit.....its still ok to have em :P

Skaala 02-05-2007 04:35 PM

It was announced today that the PS3 will have a price increase, and get e a base price of $900+ USD in Norway from March. :bad-words: :bad-words::bad-words::bad-words::bad-words:

ViperASR 02-05-2007 04:58 PM

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It was announced today that the PS3 will have a price increase, and get e a base price of $900+ USD in Norway from March. :bad-words: :bad-words::bad-words::bad-words::bad-words:

A grand for a videogame console :!: I think not

RC45 02-05-2007 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaala
It was announced today that the PS3 will have a price increase, and get e a base price of $900+ USD in Norway from March. :bad-words: :bad-words::bad-words::bad-words::bad-words:

A grand for a videogame console :!: I think not

What is that in local currency? And the Norwegians are wealthy - they pay $100,000+ for $30,000 from other coutries... right ? :P

Skaala 02-05-2007 06:08 PM

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It was announced today that the PS3 will have a price increase, and get e a base price of $900+ USD in Norway from March. :bad-words: :bad-words::bad-words::bad-words::bad-words:

A grand for a videogame console :!: I think not

What is that in local currency? And the Norwegians are wealthy - they pay $100,000+ for $30,000 from other coutries... right ? :P

this is about 6.000,- norwegian kroner. And, yes norwegian people have high salleries, but we pay it all back again in taxes. The taxes are also some of the worlds highest. I will not buy the PS3 now afterall.....maybe I'll wait a year. Don't need it before GT5 is out anyway ;) I could tell you bedtime stories about taxes that would scare the crap out of any foreigners:D

MidEngine4Life 02-05-2007 08:20 PM

I reserved my 360 many months before it was released and I didnt get it until months after it was released but ive never once regreted it. I dunno what you guys are on about but there is a truck load of great games for the 360 and theres like ummm, maybe 1 for the PS3. I bought a gaming console for games, not a pretty piece of machinery for my high tech collection. Im not much of a fan boy i just take whats there. On the 360 I got PGR3, Elder Scrolls Oblivion, Saints Row, Gears of War, Rainbow Six Vegas, Fight Night Round 3, Lost Planet, G.R.A.W. , Splinter Cell, etc. Tell me one good game on the PS3 other than Resistance: Fall of Man that I cant get on the 360. Not only that but games to this date are proving to look better on the 360. Just ask Gamepsot or IGN

Dont get me wrong, I want a PS3. That Formula one game coming out later this month looks incredible! But right now the thing just costs way to much and there arent enough good games to justify paying that much. PS3's are stacking up in stores aorund here when Wii's are impossible to find.

I got a system that does what the PS3 can and more. 1 year earlier and a lot cheaper. Whos the fool?

RC45 02-05-2007 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MidEngine4Life
I got a system that does what the PS3 can and more. 1 year earlier and a lot cheaper. Whos the fool?

Exactly how does the 360 do "more"?

And the lauch price of the 360 was right up there with the PS3's $500 - considering it took a long time before you could buy a 360 that was not part of an expensive "bundle" - but even then any 360 buyer was faced with a $500 to $600 bill once you added in the controller and $60 games etc.

So price is really a wash.

And I don't care what IGN or anyone elses claims, but side by side on an HD screen, the PS3 looks better than the 360 - not much else you can do.

When making such comparisons it is important to be factual ;) not just play the "hype" game as well..

ALl I am sayign is that the PS3 in the month we have had itm, has been used as web browser, Blu-Ray player and gaming console - playing PS2 and PS3 games.

The 360 is very seldom used and then only as a console.. and thankfully we never dithced the old XBox, because the really fun titles the family enjoys are not supported on the 360 ;)

We have yet to have a PS1 or PS2 title fail to launch on the PS3.

Add to that the extensive hard drive, USB drive, memory card and keyboard support of the PS3 (even the "base" model) and you have an overall more reqarding experience...

Did we mention steering wheel support yet? :) ALmost a year later and 360 still has no decent wheel. ;)

ViperASR 02-05-2007 09:28 PM

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And the lauch price of the 360 was right up there with the PS3's $500 - considering it took a long time before you could buy a 360 that was not part of an expensive "bundle" - but even then any 360 buyer was faced with a $500 to $600 bill once you added in the controller and $60 games etc.

So price is really a wash.

I didnt see any bundles untill this christmas with the 360. And even then, it was only $20 more. Walmart where I bought mine had 30 boxes, no bundles, $300 for the core and $400 for the premium. The bundles were only available online from what I saw, and if you bought a bundle you got a good deal on the accessories.

As for the controller and games, its the same for any console. You buy the console and games, its no different then the PS3. $60 for games, $40 controller. So by the time you run up the bill it is damn near $800 bill.

RC45 02-05-2007 11:42 PM

Well to be honest then -

PS3 Basic $499
Remote $-30
HDMI $-20
2nd Cont $-30
Tax $-47
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Total $626
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(the joys of open box returns - see $30 remote and controller ;))

XBox360 $399
PGR3 $-60
2nd Cont $-40
Tax $-41
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Total $540
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There has been about a year between the 360 and the PS3 purchase.

In terms of usage for me, its a wash.. for you it may be different. ;)

ViperASR 02-06-2007 12:08 AM

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PS3 Basic $499
Remote $-30
HDMI $-20
2nd Cont $-30
Tax $-47
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Total $626
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(the joys of open box returns - see $30 remote and controller Wink)

Most people wont have open box returns so tack on a few more $$$. And sense you are using the top model of the 360, why not use the top model of the PS3, and you added a game for the 360, so why not add another $60 for the PS3 game. So that would get the bill to about $800. I know it was a different price for you, but for most people it will be closer to the 800 number for the exact same spec systems. (1 top console, 1 extra controller, remote (included in 1st run 360s), game, and minus the HDMI cable as its not supported by the 360 :( )

For me the 360 was a better buy, but that is just my opinion. I bought it for the games that are available/will be available. Personally I dont care about the internet access and such as my computer is sitting right next to my 360 and TV. I enjoy the game lineup more then graphic capabilities and such, and I also enjoy price, and was upset that mine cost $400 when the Wii is a freakin deal at $250(?). Fuzion Frenzy 2, Halo 3 (if it is ever released), Forza 2, Battlefield 2, Perfect Dark Zero all caught my fancy for the 360.

I know the graphic capabilities on the PS3 are better, but to me that little bit of difference isnt enough of a reason to spend the extra $200+ dollars on the console. As I said earlier, to each his own :wink:

BTW, open box deals rule! :twisted:

RC45 02-06-2007 01:52 AM

^^^ I didnt buy a top range PS3 because I dont need it.

There is no need for the built in memory slots - all USB card caddies work 100%. There is no need to pay extra for a 60GB harddrive - any laptop SATA drive will work - hence me upgrading to a 120GB drive for $100.

And there is no need for a wireless adapter, wired is always better.

If you want an XBox360 to play the few limited supported XBox titles, you MUST have a hard drive - and since Micro$haft doesnt support ad-hoc user upgrades what exactly s the point of their "entry level 360" again?

I have not added a game for the PS3 because there are none that interest me at this time... I have downloded free demos and played our PS2 faves...

As I say, the PS3 serves as 3 devices which is great - the 360 only serves as 1.

Thats our mileage, yours may vary :)

Pimp Racer 02-06-2007 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MidEngine4Life
I got a system that does what the PS3 can and more. 1 year earlier and a lot cheaper. Whos the fool?

Can you even name anything the Xbot 360 can do that the PS3 can not do? Now you ask me the question what can the PS3 do that the Xbox cant?

Lets see easy back up of data, full fledge PC almost with Linux, easy HDD upgrade, support for external HDD, USB, what not, Blueteeth, HDMI, and much more....:)

RC45 02-06-2007 05:39 PM

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I got a system that does what the PS3 can and more. 1 year earlier and a lot cheaper. Whos the fool?

Can you even name anything the Xbot 360 can do that the PS3 can not do? Now you ask me the question what can the PS3 do that the Xbox cant?

Lets see easy back up of data, full fledge PC almost with Linux, easy HDD upgrade, support for external HDD, USB, what not, Blueteeth, HDMI, and much more....:)

Let's not turn this into a Sony FanBoy vs Micro$hafty nerd war ;)

I would have be on both sides and don't have the energy :P

We can concede different strokes for different folks...

Pimp Racer 02-06-2007 06:19 PM

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I got a system that does what the PS3 can and more. 1 year earlier and a lot cheaper. Whos the fool?

Can you even name anything the Xbot 360 can do that the PS3 can not do? Now you ask me the question what can the PS3 do that the Xbox cant?

Lets see easy back up of data, full fledge PC almost with Linux, easy HDD upgrade, support for external HDD, USB, what not, Blueteeth, HDMI, and much more....:)

Let's not turn this into a Sony FanBoy vs Micro$hafty nerd war ;)

I would have be on both sides and don't have the energy :P

We can concede different strokes for different folks...

:lol: M$ does have a few upper hands such as "exclusive" games. But yeah anyways lets not try another one of the damn M$ Vs $ony.

Also if they have a PS3 price cut then more reasons to get one. I mean think of the deal. But also I wonder when the price cut comes out will they also have the 65nm dies as well?

ae86_16v 04-10-2007 08:42 PM

Looks like a few retailers are dropping the 20GB version of the PS3.

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Originally Posted by Engadget
For the 20GB PS3, it looks like the end is near. Sony's official store, Sony Style, as well as the websites of Best Buy, Gamestop and EB are no longer carrying the 20GB model, instead only offering its buffer, more expensive brother. While it remains on Amazon for the time being, there's no telling how much longer it will stick around. Add this to the fact that the 20 GB version was never available in Europe, and it smells strongly of an SKU execution.

We kind of knew it was coming. I mean, honestly, who actually bought one of them? Now we're just wondering how long it'll be before Microsoft drops the hammer on the Core 360, since three versions of a console seems like a bit much. Then again, there are 2353798 versions of Windows Vista. – Matt Buchanan

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/ps3/sony-...ps3-251251.php

ae86_16v 04-17-2007 05:53 PM

Now with Bigger HD:

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Originally Posted by Reuters
TOKYO (Reuters) - Sony Corp. (6758.T: Quote, Profile, Research) said on Tuesday it is considering launching PlayStation 3 (PS3) game consoles with larger hard disk drive capacity, in a bid to cater to the needs of hardcore gamers and other heavy users.

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http://uk.reuters.com/article/techno...30129620070417

TopGearNL 04-17-2007 06:23 PM

Xbox 360 is becoming cheaper and cheaper over here. Saw a deal somewhere of Console + 20GB hard drive and 2 controllers for 200 Euros, mind that this was without VAT but still not bad..

Getting without the VAT shouldn't be too hard, but then again getting them to believe the Xbox is for office use is. :lol:

ViperASR 04-17-2007 06:27 PM

I dont understand why they would enlarge the HDD if you can do it so easily yourself? Perhaps it is because MS has the Elite 360 with 120(?) gigs of memory.

ae86_16v 04-18-2007 01:13 AM

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I dont understand why they would enlarge the HDD if you can do it so easily yourself? Perhaps it is because MS has the Elite 360 with 120(?) gigs of memory.

Yeah I guess it just looks bad from a marketing stand point.

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Xbox 360 is becoming cheaper and cheaper over here. Saw a deal somewhere of Console + 20GB hard drive and 2 controllers for 200 Euros, mind that this was without VAT but still not bad..

Getting without the VAT shouldn't be too hard, but then again getting them to believe the Xbox is for office use is. :lol:

Likewise here, I am thinking about picking up a used one for around $200 USD. I am borrowing my friend's Xbox 360 right now, and it looks amazing in 720p. :D

gis 04-18-2007 05:38 AM

price has a had a drop slightly on online stores here,£399 for the console.......still way to much without any games or extras

ae86_16v 05-21-2007 03:57 AM

80GB Coming to South Korea, priced at $550 USD. Should be interesting to see how much when it hits US shores:

http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/21/s...ps3-for-korea/

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Originally Posted by Engadget
Well we have to admit, we sure didn't see this one coming. There have been rumors of a higher capacity PlayStation 3 for several months now, but no one figured that the first 80GB model would drop not in Japan or the US, but South Korea.

And yet that's exactly what's scheduled to go down June 16th, when the previously-denied, Euro-spec'ed PS3 (but no 20GB or 60GB models, it seems) will hit the land of Samsung and LG for a pre-tax 518,000 won -- or just $556.

While we don't want to get your hopes up, we can't help but think that this move bodes well for US consumers too; after all, the 80 gigger is already through the FCC, meaning that price drops and unimaginable storage space could be right around the corner.


ae86_16v 06-29-2007 05:54 AM

Looks like Rumble might be back in soon:

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/sony/ps3-...oon-273352.php

Erez 06-29-2007 08:12 PM

let me know when its $299 or under.. :roll:

Erez 07-02-2007 12:26 AM

I just think the PS3, atm, is a joke.. :wink:


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