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AlienDB7 11-11-2006 06:13 PM

Casino Royale
 
Think it's about time to start a thread for Casino Royale, coming to the big screen on November 17!

Most of you probably seen the DBS already, so here's a glimpse of the new Ford Mondeo on the set of CR. With the body kit, it actually doesnt look bad at all!
http://www.mi6.co.uk/sections/articl...deo.php3?t=&s=

stmoritzer 11-11-2006 06:24 PM

I reserved tickets for teh 22nd of november, the first official screening day :P
( there are some premiers in Switzerland on the 18th on, but I'm on holiday - David Craig is actually comming to the Swiss-premiere :shock:, he's only the second Bond caracter to be at a swiss premiere :good:, supposer to arrive in a AM :good:)

TopGearNL 11-11-2006 08:01 PM

AM, Mondeo and even the New BOnd Movie don't look bad :shock:

Im expecting a lot! :)

Thanks!

Mattk 11-12-2006 05:41 AM

I saw the trailer recently. It looks fantastic. Pity they didn't show more of the DBS in it.

stmoritzer 11-12-2006 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin005
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Originally Posted by stmoritzer
I reserved tickets for teh 22nd of november, the first official screening day :P
( there are some premiers in Switzerland on the 18th on, but I'm on holiday - David Craig is actually comming to the Swiss-premiere :shock:, he's only the second Bond caracter to be at a swiss premiere :good:, supposer to arrive in a AM :good:)

official screening day on the 22nd, you sure??

ive seen the ads saying it comes out the 17th here!!

on the 14th, it's the world premiere
on the 17th, it's the swiss premiere, there will be some other pre-screeenings from different sponsors IMO, but it starts in the cinemas at the 22nd

In germany for instance, the premiere is on the 21th at the Berliner CineStar-Kino am Potstdamer Platz and the regular screening is ostarting from the 23rd


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from sony/MGM ( when the film starts)

14.11.2006 Weltpremiere in London (Kino Odeon, Leicester Square)
15.11.2006 Jamaica, Philippinen, Bahrain, Ägypten, Jordanien, Kuwait, Oman

16.11.2006 Grossbritannien, Griechenland, Russland, Tschechische Republik, Slowakei, Puerto Rico, Malaysia, Singapur, Thailand, Israel, Libanon, Qatar, Syrien, Vereinigte Arab. Emirate

17.11.2006 USA, Kanada, Island, Schweden, Polen, Estland, Lettland, Litauen, Türkei, Mexiko, Indonesien, Taiwan
22.11.2006 Schweiz (fr.), Belgien, Frankreich
23.11.2006 Schweiz (dt.), Deutschland, Kroatien, Niederlande, Slowenien, Serbien und Montenegro, Portugal
24.11.2006 Österreich, Bulgarien, Dänemark, Spanien, Estland, Norwegen, Rumänien, Finnland
01.12.2006 Kenia, Nigeria, Südafrika, Japan
07.12.2006 Ungarn, Argentinien, Chile, Peru, Kolumbien, Australien, Neuseeland
08.12.2006 Ecuador, Mexiko, Venezuela
15.12.2006 Indonesien
17.12.2006 Indien
21.12.2006 Zentralamerika, HongKong
21.12.2006 Korea
25.12.2006 Bolivien, Uruguay

sameerrao 11-12-2006 12:44 PM

I do hope this movie is good unlike the pathetic last couple movies. Goldeneye was the last classy movie.

TopGearNL 11-12-2006 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sameerrao
I do hope this movie is good unlike the pathetic last couple movies. Goldeneye was the last classy movie.

Your abslotuely right, GoldenEye was the last real James Bond Movie! 8)

TeflonTron 11-12-2006 01:41 PM

It'll never be as good as the original Casino Royale!

David Niven FTW!


Seriously though, it does look like it'll be a really good film, and I hope that they take it back to the dark and gritty Bond of Dalton (an excellent Bond, btw).

AlienDB7 11-12-2006 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TopGearNL
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Originally Posted by sameerrao
I do hope this movie is good unlike the pathetic last couple movies. Goldeneye was the last classy movie.

Your abslotuely right, GoldenEye was the last real James Bond Movie! 8)

Casino Royale has the same director as GoldenEye so it should be good. Hopefully it doesn't turn into another On Her Majesty's Secret Service (i.e. good movie, good.. best... bond girl but bad bond) :roll:

TopGearNL 11-12-2006 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienDB7
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Originally Posted by TopGearNL
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Originally Posted by sameerrao
I do hope this movie is good unlike the pathetic last couple movies. Goldeneye was the last classy movie.

Your abslotuely right, GoldenEye was the last real James Bond Movie! 8)

Casino Royale has the same director as GoldenEye so it should be good. Hopefully it doesn't turn into another On Her Majesty's Secret Service (i.e. good movie, good.. best... bond girl but bad bond) :roll:

Ok sounds good, on her majesty's secret service was done by George Lazenby, Australian and the worst bond ever, thats probably why he only did 1 :wink:

TeflonTron 11-12-2006 05:42 PM

Actually, Lazenby is often rated by critics as one of the best Bonds, and OHMSS is seen as one of the better films in the franchise.

TopGearNL 11-12-2006 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TeflonTron
Actually, Lazenby is often rated by critics as one of the best Bonds, and OHMSS is seen as one of the better films in the franchise.

Well Im not literally saying he is bad just in my eyes (my opinion as a fan) OHMSS wasn't such a bad movie I agree just not a real bond movie. And I have seen Lazenby in other movies and he is a really good actor without a moments hesitation :wink:

Mattk 11-12-2006 09:31 PM

Lazenby had some sort of disagreement with Broccoli, who had wanted Roger Moore anyway, so he left.

It will be interesting to see what Daniel Craig brings to the role. He does seem to be more of a Dalton character - more flamboyant.

Zot09 11-19-2006 06:22 AM

Well I just got back from the movie, and it was much better than I expected. The new Bond is even better than I thought he would be, but he still doesn't measure up to Pierce and some of the others. The action was pretty good(a bit disappointed that there were no new gadgets), the Bond girl was pretty, and it had its funny moments. I'd give this movie a 7.5-8/10.

thepest 11-19-2006 07:24 AM

I just saw the movie last night and I tell you the film is great! It's way better than expected, which was a very pleasant surprice!


p.s. Except, maybe, the part when the DBS rolled over like 10 times just from turning harder, which is next to impossible especially on the wet ground. :)

AlienDB7 11-19-2006 04:43 PM

Saw it on Friday night (after a 2hrs line-up outside the theatre) and all I can say it, it's the best movie I've seen in the past few years. In no way it is directly comparable to the old Bond movies since everything is so different.

Overall, it's a much darker Bond and Daniel Craig did a good job. Should be interesting to see what the next Bond movie will be like when it comes out 2 years from now. I heard there'll be a cameo by Eva Green ;)

For the DBS roll, apparently they tried to use a ramp to roll the car but the aston pretty much leveled itself in mid air and landed on 4 wheels. So they ended up using an air canon. There was a documentary on Making of Casino Royale on ITV or channel 5.

Fleischmann 11-19-2006 05:42 PM

^^^it was on 5th gear. They tested the manouvere on cars with similair weigh to the DBS and all went well but when it came to shooting with the DBS the car didn't want to flip over so they had to use the canon.

5vz-fe 11-20-2006 12:34 PM

After reading many positive reviews, I also went to see it on Friday. Overall, the movie is not bad, but certain scenes are missing the link to reality. And most important of all, even tho Daniel tries very hard to imitate previous Bonds (e.g. water scene), but you can feel that something is still missing.

Spoliers Warning:

If they plan on focusing so much on the poker scenes, at least make it look like a real poker game. There's no raise / re-raise, ppl just check / call.

How the hell could you flip an AM like that? It's no Ford Explorer.

When the entire building colapse into the water, how the hell could you have such clear water in the last scene.

I thought Bond suppose to be a calm and smart gentleman, but this film seems to portait him as quite the opposite.
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Anyways, at least I didn't feel rip off when leaving the theater, so I'll rate it a 6/10.

gangajas 11-25-2006 08:53 AM

I watched the film yesterday and I think it was much better than previous Bond films

SFDMALEX 11-25-2006 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 5vz-fe

If they plan on focusing so much on the poker scenes, at least make it look like a real poker game. There's no raise / re-raise, ppl just check / call.

They did have a raise/re-raise ;)

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How the hell could you flip an AM like that? It's no Ford Explorer.

When the entire building colapse into the water, how the hell could you have such clear water in the last scene.

I thought Bond suppose to be a calm and smart gentleman, but this film seems to portait him as quite the opposite.
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Well thats what movies do ;) If shit was 100% realistic then movies would be borring documentaries :P


I watched it, and I liked it. Its very different. A soild movie but I wont say its the greatest thing of the last couple of years.

Most definetly is the best bond after GoldenEye.

TopGearNL 11-25-2006 08:08 PM

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Most definetly is the best bond after GoldenEye.
Same producer :D

graywolf624 11-26-2006 06:54 PM

It annoyed the hell out of me that the movie is set in 2006 but it is the start of bond. That and the romance scenes were a bit moronic.
Where was the Q like charachter?
Otherwise a great movie, tons of action.

taygunho 11-27-2006 06:05 AM

I watched the movie yesterday. It was better than I expected. Daniel craig did very good job IMO. I gave 8/10 to this film at IMDB.

Dubai 11-27-2006 12:04 PM

I quit liked it.

It is a proper bond movie :D

TopGearNL 11-27-2006 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by graywolf624
It annoyed the hell out of me that the movie is set in 2006 but it is the start of bond. That and the romance scenes were a bit moronic.
Where was the Q like charachter?
Otherwise a great movie, tons of action.

Yeah I agree completely, and indeed where was the Q character? :?

LEXION 11-27-2006 01:39 PM

I got a bit bored at the middle really....and how is that sail boat suppost to pass under the Rialto bridge in Venice? And where is the DBS? I mean, its night and he wrecks the car, thats IT???? A bit disapointed really.....but it gets back at the end, very nice, when the building collapses :)


I liked better , ''Die another day'' ..... :lol:

pagani 11-29-2006 05:12 PM

I have just seen in yesterday daniel graig dit a good job
But the end was really shitty to much romance to little action no decent car chase.
The first part of the movie was really good it all got downhill when james bond is captured.
:D :o :)

Fleischmann 11-30-2006 06:53 PM

Saw it today, the new approach is very refreshing, finally crappy and naive CG is gone making place for authentic stunts. And they finally got rid of the cheesy quotes. Too bad so little attention was paid to the DBS :(

ae86_16v 12-01-2006 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 5vz-fe
After reading many positive reviews, I also went to see it on Friday. Overall, the movie is not bad, but certain scenes are missing the link to reality. And most important of all, even tho Daniel tries very hard to imitate previous Bonds (e.g. water scene), but you can feel that something is still missing.

Spoliers Warning:

If they plan on focusing so much on the poker scenes, at least make it look like a real poker game. There's no raise / re-raise, ppl just check / call.

How the hell could you flip an AM like that? It's no Ford Explorer.

When the entire building colapse into the water, how the hell could you have such clear water in the last scene.

I thought Bond suppose to be a calm and smart gentleman, but this film seems to portait him as quite the opposite.
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Anyways, at least I didn't feel rip off when leaving the theater, so I'll rate it a 6/10.

He wasn't suppose to be "Bondish" anyways. Remember, this was the beginning on Bond, the first book in Ian Fleming's novels.

For me, easily 8 out of 10, if not 9 out of 10.

I agree with other's that it is the best Bond since Golden Eye.

TopGearNL 12-04-2006 02:56 PM

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Anyway - what I missed quite a lot was the Q character... but I wonder, did he really appear in Ian Flemming books?
You might be right about that, maybe he wasn't in the Casino Royale book :bah:

ae86_16v 12-05-2006 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TopGearNL
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Anyway - what I missed quite a lot was the Q character... but I wonder, did he really appear in Ian Flemming books?
You might be right about that, maybe he wasn't in the Casino Royale book :bah:

Well remember their "back to the basics" approach. And I must say it worked really well in this movie. Craig said that doesn't mean they won't do more gadgets and what not in the future, but he said it just didn't fit into this movie with the gadgets, it would've distracted. And I agree.

Dani - that torture scene was right out from the book. I thought it was grueling to watch. . .

Definitely the best Bond since Golden Eye (same director).

acmarttin 12-10-2006 04:59 AM

I just saw the movie tonight, late - I know, but I thought it was great.

The only reason I'm posting this - besides the fact that I want to keep you all up to date with my personal life :o - Is the following:

I found it interesting that the prototype jet that Bond saves in the first 1/3 or so of the film resembled the "747" that 5th Gear pulled with the Volkswagen Touareg. It seemed to be a computer modified 747 with that strange 2x2 jet engine pattern + auxiliary fuel tanks..


dunno if that's important or not, but perhaps the jet from 5th gear was a model for the jet in the film.

a007apl 12-16-2006 09:20 AM

I watched the film yesterday too, Its more real, more danger, blood etc.
And, off course, the best of :twisted:
Now I've news ideas for my "a007apl in Acitons"
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:twisted: :wink:
Wait me

spanky 12-16-2006 11:21 AM

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He wasn't suppose to be "Bondish" anyways. Remember, this was the beginning on Bond, the first book in Ian Fleming's novels.

For me, easily 8 out of 10, if not 9 out of 10.
Thats right this is the first book and you get to learn how he became the bond we know already. Crais was an awesome bond! :good:

Action of the non cgi kind, funny dialog and not just slap stick one liners ALL the time, hot bond women who were natural beauties and damn that torture scene had my legs clenching just thinkin about it :shock:

Def a 9 out of 10 for me too.

Z3uS 12-16-2006 12:08 PM

Very good movie, just watched it last night, the best from the recent ones for sure.
He is more human yet still a 007 and Eva Green is very beautiful. :mrgreen:

Spoilers












To bad the Aston gets fucked quite soon.

ae86_16v 12-16-2006 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by acmarttin
I just saw the movie tonight, late - I know, but I thought it was great.

The only reason I'm posting this - besides the fact that I want to keep you all up to date with my personal life :o - Is the following:

I found it interesting that the prototype jet that Bond saves in the first 1/3 or so of the film resembled the "747" that 5th Gear pulled with the Volkswagen Touareg. It seemed to be a computer modified 747 with that strange 2x2 jet engine pattern + auxiliary fuel tanks..


dunno if that's important or not, but perhaps the jet from 5th gear was a model for the jet in the film.

Yeah, I posted about that back in the 5th Gear thread about the 747 in that configuration, I have never seen it before.

Maybe it is just a mock-up and not a real flyer?

TopGearNL 12-16-2006 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ae86_16v
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Originally Posted by acmarttin
I just saw the movie tonight, late - I know, but I thought it was great.

The only reason I'm posting this - besides the fact that I want to keep you all up to date with my personal life :o - Is the following:

I found it interesting that the prototype jet that Bond saves in the first 1/3 or so of the film resembled the "747" that 5th Gear pulled with the Volkswagen Touareg. It seemed to be a computer modified 747 with that strange 2x2 jet engine pattern + auxiliary fuel tanks..


dunno if that's important or not, but perhaps the jet from 5th gear was a model for the jet in the film.

Yeah, I posted about that back in the 5th Gear thread about the 747 in that configuration, I have never seen it before.

Maybe it is just a mock-up and not a real flyer?

I think its a new engine type for the 747 I guess :?

pterps 12-17-2006 03:49 AM

I think I will go to this movie tuesday, it's my birthday and my lady wants to take me to the cinema. I am very curious.

Stoopie 12-17-2006 06:41 AM

Didn't see it yet, haven't heard that much great things about it though.. Will be seeing it soon enough :)

TopGearNL 12-17-2006 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pterps
I think I will go to this movie tuesday, it's my birthday and my lady wants to take me to the cinema. I am very curious.

Have a nice day Peter :wink:

novass 12-20-2006 06:19 PM

I just saw the movie. Im not really sure if I liked it or not yet. As just a movie, it was alright, but as a Bond film, I dont think it was that great. The movie centered too much around Bond's emotions showing that he was penetrable when Bond shouldnt be IMO.

It was a decent movie, but not a good Bond movie, if that makes any sense.

Z3uS 12-20-2006 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by novass
I just saw the movie. Im not really sure if I liked it or not yet. As just a movie, it was alright, but as a Bond film, I dont think it was that great. The movie centered too much around Bond's emotions showing that he was penetrable when Bond shouldnt be IMO.

It was a decent movie, but not a good Bond movie, if that makes any sense.

I think thats why the movie is so good. He is no longer a superhero but at the same time he is still James Bond.

novass 12-21-2006 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Z3uS
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Originally Posted by novass
I just saw the movie. Im not really sure if I liked it or not yet. As just a movie, it was alright, but as a Bond film, I dont think it was that great. The movie centered too much around Bond's emotions showing that he was penetrable when Bond shouldnt be IMO.

It was a decent movie, but not a good Bond movie, if that makes any sense.

I think thats why the movie is so good. He is no longer a superhero but at the same time he is still James Bond.

It is nice that they tried something different this time around, but honestly, I found myself bored with it a couple of times. There was way too much poker and the main plot wasn't really any kind of mastermind scheme at all, just dirty money changing hands. There was no Q or anything like it also. There are a ton of movies out there that involve the "troubled" action hero that is also an average type of person. Its not like you go see a Jet Li movie to watch Li fall in love, you know?

It wasn't a bad movie per se, but I felt disappointed in a way after it was over. It felt like I watched a decent action/drama movie, not a Bond movie.

HeilSvenska 12-21-2006 03:05 AM

Well, I kind of like that they're trying to change the very idea of what a Bond movie is supposed to be. I mean. Casino Royale was the first Ian Fleming book, so in a sense, Casino Royale should be what all Bond movies should have been in the first place.

Besides, some existing Bond movies were jokes, especially Die Another Day. I didn't think I was watching a Bond movie during that, honestly, but felt more like watching another Austin Powers movie. Halle Berry? Come on. Least attractive Bond girl ever. The other one was the fattest one ever too.

Anyways. It was a very good movie and a good Bond movie too. It's kind of sad that people would go to see a Bond movie for silly gadgets and farcical plots. Hopefully new ones can change that.

novass 12-21-2006 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska
Halle Berry? Come on. Least attractive Bond girl ever.

I still think Halle Berry is hot and her body is damn nice, but to each their own.

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It's kind of sad that people would go to see a Bond movie for silly gadgets and farcical plots.

Thats not why I go to see Bond movies. But for as long as I can remember, Q has been in every Bond movie I have ever seen as well as plots of world domination. I admit that I dont think I have seen every Bond movie ever and I havent read any of the books but this movie didnt follow the norm of the ones I have seen which I would wager is the majority, which is why it didnt feel like a Bond movie to me.

Like I said, I didnt think it was bad, it just ended up being a lot different than I thought it would be. And there was still way too much poker and cheesy romance for my liking.

cooperluke 12-21-2006 05:14 AM

Haven't seen it yet... with Christhmas and all.. I've been busy on weekends, and on weekdays, after work, I just wanna crash on the sofa after dinner.

gucom 12-30-2006 07:55 AM

i saw it yesterday, i loved it, honestly one of the best Bond films ive ever seen IMO... i think its because it's no longer such an over-the-top boy fantasy film, it's more mature i think... and i like the grittier style of it too 8)
I can see why people feel it's not a proper Bond film since it's so different (btw License to Kill wasn't about world domination either), but i agree this is probably what they should've been like, Daniel Craig is a Proper Bond imo... and ow yeah Halle Berry's HOT :D

Stoopie 12-31-2006 07:32 AM

Just back from the movie, and I think it's a great action movie. The story is really Bond too, but the movie isn't all that. Sure, Daniel Craig does a good job playing an inexperienced 007, but he's just too much Hollywood! James Bond should be a British bloke, then the jokes will actually be funny! It's like letting Bill Cosby make Rowan Atkinson's jokes.. Also the commercials in the movie bothered me a bit, how about 5 mins of using Sony devices in the movie :? Where are the good old days when that didn't occur.. I hope there will be a next Bond movie, this time without Craig and without all those (all to obvious) commercial thingies, and with a proper British Bond.

In short: Great action movie, great Bond story, bad Bond movie.

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ae86_16v 01-01-2007 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Stoopie
Also the commercials in the movie bothered me a bit, how about 5 mins of using Sony devices in the movie :? Where are the good old days when that didn't occur..

Not to mention the endless list of cars of the Ford Group that appeared in the movie: Range Rover Sport, DB5, DBS, Jag S-Type, XJ... even the next generation Mondeo!!

Welcome to the world of product placement. . . $$$. 8)

I thought Daniel Craig was British? No?

HeilSvenska 01-01-2007 06:01 PM

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he's just too much Hollywood! James Bond should be a British bloke, then the jokes will actually be funny!
He's English. And he's not that hollywood. The only other movie I remember him from is the first Tomb Raider. (I didn't even remember him from that, I read it from wikipedia)


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