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st-anger 08-05-2004 02:51 PM

*** time to say GOOD-BYE² and welcome Cayenne S ***
 
before:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/st-anger/7_2.jpg

after:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...DSCN3822_1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...DSCN3821_1.jpg

...yep it´s true "she" has left me today :cry:
unfortunately i´ve to say that i sold my love one this week, i know, kinda off-topic but i´d like to honor my big lady who went along with me the past 3 years...
i know many ppl hate that car because of it´s look and stuff, but for me it has been love at first sight and i´ll definitely miss her... :|

hope that i´ll find an appropriate alternative... 8)

farewell my diva...

sameerrao 08-05-2004 03:07 PM

Damn for a minute I thought you were leaving JW and not the car! :?

Especially since you put this post on the Porsche central site! :D

sentra_dude 08-05-2004 03:15 PM

You had me worried there for a sec, I thought we were going to lose our resident Porsche (well, cars in general) expert...:(

Any ideas of what the new car is going to be? :D

T-Bird 08-05-2004 03:18 PM

that sucks I love that car hope to see something new soon.

fedezyl 08-05-2004 03:18 PM

haha yeah me too thought that, sad to see the BMW go....maybe....get a porsche this time mate? heheh or....I don't know...an Alfa?? I know i'm biased.....lol

I bet you've been thinking about a replacement....tell us about it!!

TT 08-05-2004 03:36 PM

I knew this was about to happen, and although feeling sad for that great car to be sold, I'm already excited about any future purchase!! Bye bye beloved 745! we will miss you!

SFDMALEX 08-05-2004 03:47 PM

Shite mate. You scared the living shit of me. I thought you were leaving JW.

As for the car...I guess its like all things in life. We always have to let go of our most loved and respected things in life. Be it people, cars, toys or pets. :(

yg60m 08-05-2004 03:59 PM

I understand what you feel, i like this car too :wink:
What are you thinking about for replacement ?

sameerrao 08-05-2004 04:29 PM

Quote:

What are you thinking about for replacement ?
4porte hopefully?

5vz-fe 08-05-2004 10:13 PM

Have an order on the new M5?

BADMIHAI 08-05-2004 10:25 PM

I can understand you loved the car and all, but, IMO, it's just a car. It's not a Ferrari or Lambo or CGT to have a "soul", so move on. What is your next car going to be?

PATo355 08-05-2004 10:49 PM

Oh ... that is sad im sure is an astonishing car besides the rubbish looks of it , what are you thinking for replacement ? A quattroporte ? :mrgreen:

Chaos in 1983! 08-05-2004 11:14 PM

I'm sorry to see you let her go...I love this car very much too...what's the reason you're selling it?

Quote:

A quattroporte ?
LOL>...that was excaclty what I was about to say!!!

st-anger 08-06-2004 07:01 AM

:lol: ...i knew it.... :lol:

no no guyz, you won´t get rid of me that fast... :wink:

reason: obsolescence...
i never had a car more than 3 to 5 years because of resale value

replacement: well, to be honest i do not really need a autobahn cruiser any more, to save time and nerves i´m flying to germany since some weeks, it´s a bit more expensive but it´s definitely more comfortable for me than driving 4 to 6 hours every weekend ending up in another traffic jam.... :?
so i don´t really know which car i should buy, my BMW dealer has some good options and i´m extremely satisfied with my previous BMW models, but on the other hand i think i should wait a bit...i´m after something different, we´ll see...maybe next spring....
for this remaining summer a friend of mine gave me a very good hint when we met at NS last monday, he showed up there with a friend from switzerland and he had a nice ride with him...NO, no Porsche, but i think i´ll rent such a car for this summer, because i loved it very much, on the other hand a kinda uncommon ride for me though, but i liked it and i never heared something bad about it...

so i´ll only rent it for some months and then give it back to the dealer, to be honest i wouldn´t actually buy such a car, sure it´s nice but well...you guys will see and then we talk :wink:

to sum it up, no precise idea for a 745 replacement, but i think it won´t be a 4porte, E60 M5 or Alfa :wink: , i drive the sports cars at work and so i needn´t one for private driving, i need a practical and relaxing car...

we´ll see... 8)

SFDMALEX 08-06-2004 09:24 AM

Hmmm a Merc? Or a CAAADIIILLLAC :lol: Anyways Im sure you'll get something good.

st-anger 08-06-2004 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFDMALEX
Hmmm a Merc? Or a CAAADIIILLLAC :lol: Anyways Im sure you'll get something good.

:lol: 101% sure no one´ll guess it right...

sameerrao 08-06-2004 09:54 AM

Caterham?? :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by st-anger
:lol: ...i knew it.... :lol:

no no guyz, you won´t get rid of me that fast... :wink:

reason: obsolescence...
i never had a car more than 3 to 5 years because of resale value

replacement: well, to be honest i do not really need a autobahn cruiser any more, to save time and nerves i´m flying to germany since some weeks, it´s a bit more expensive but it´s definitely more comfortable for me than driving 4 to 6 hours every weekend ending up in another traffic jam.... :?
so i don´t really know which car i should buy, my BMW dealer has some good options and i´m extremely satisfied with my previous BMW models, but on the other hand i think i should wait a bit...i´m after something different, we´ll see...maybe next spring....
for this remaining summer a friend of mine gave me a very good hint when we met at NS last monday, he showed up there with a friend from switzerland and he had a nice ride with him...NO, no Porsche, but i think i´ll rent such a car for this summer, because i loved it very much, on the other hand a kinda uncommon ride for me though, but i liked it and i never heared something bad about it...

so i´ll only rent it for some months and then give it back to the dealer, to be honest i wouldn´t actually buy such a car, sure it´s nice but well...you guys will see and then we talk :wink:

to sum it up, no precise idea for a 745 replacement, but i think it won´t be a 4porte, E60 M5 or Alfa :wink: , i drive the sports cars at work and so i needn´t one for private driving, i need a practical and relaxing car...

we´ll see... 8)


bmagni 08-06-2004 01:38 PM

545i can be god for what uve said ur looking...

st-anger 08-06-2004 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmagni
545i can be god for what uve said ur looking...

...as the final replacement.....already quite good 8) ,

BUT..... for the summer ride.....sorry no :wink:

sameerrao 08-06-2004 03:09 PM

Screw the 545i --> V10 , 5 litres has you name calling ... M5



Quote:

Originally Posted by st-anger
Quote:

Originally Posted by bmagni
545i can be god for what uve said ur looking...

...as the final replacement.....already quite good 8) ,

BUT..... for the summer ride.....sorry no :wink:


st-anger 08-06-2004 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sameerrao
Screw the 545i --> V10 , 5 litres has you name calling ... M5



Quote:

Originally Posted by st-anger
Quote:

Originally Posted by bmagni
545i can be god for what uve said ur looking...

...as the final replacement.....already quite good 8) ,

BUT..... for the summer ride.....sorry no :wink:


lol, i know you guys are after the more sportier cars but again, i´m looking for a practical car just for driving comfortable from A to B, and no 8300rpm 7speed SMG V10 sports saloon like the E60 M5 - which is btw a masterpiece and definitely king of it´s class :D

lakatu 08-06-2004 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st-anger
:lol: 101% sure no one´ll guess it right...

Oh fun a puzzle :P . Okay lets see. What do we know.

It is rare or something different but not so rare that st-anger wasn’t already familiar with it.
The owner that owned it was from Switzerland. (But based on TT’s photos that could be anything.)
It is a summer ride only.
Wouldn’t personally buy the car. Not really st-angers type.
Not sporty in character but relaxing and comfortable.
St-anger already drives a Cayenne as a company car so probably not a SUV.

Need more clues :? .
Okay a question. Is it likely available in the U.S. st-anger?

st-anger 08-06-2004 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakatu
Quote:

Originally Posted by st-anger
:lol: 101% sure no one´ll guess it right...

Oh fun a puzzle :P . Okay lets see. What do we know.

It is rare or something different but not so rare that st-anger wasn’t already familiar with it.
The owner that owned it was from Switzerland. (But based on TT’s photos that could be anything.)
It is a summer ride only.
Wouldn’t personally buy the car. Not really st-angers type.
Not sporty in character but relaxing and comfortable.
St-anger already drives a Cayenne as a company car so probably not a SUV.

Need more clues :? .
Okay a question. Is it likely available in the U.S. st-anger?

lol m8, i was waiting for you and your guess :D
already some good estimations, but i´m afraid you won´t get it, it´s just way too untypical for my car taste... maybe i already said too much now... :wink:

but yes, it IS sporty in character, in that class even exceptional sporty, when it comes down to performance on track...only sligthly slower that a E46 M3... 8)

yep, as far as i know it´s available everywhere...

again, we´ll see maybe i´ll pick it up some time next week, depends on my time table... :?

lakatu 08-06-2004 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st-anger
Quote:

Originally Posted by lakatu
Quote:

Originally Posted by st-anger
:lol: 101% sure no one´ll guess it right...

Oh fun a puzzle :P . Okay lets see. What do we know.

It is rare or something different but not so rare that st-anger wasn’t already familiar with it.
The owner that owned it was from Switzerland. (But based on TT’s photos that could be anything.)
It is a summer ride only.
Wouldn’t personally buy the car. Not really st-angers type.
Not sporty in character but relaxing and comfortable.
St-anger already drives a Cayenne as a company car so probably not a SUV.

Need more clues :? .
Okay a question. Is it likely available in the U.S. st-anger?

lol m8, i was waiting for you and your guess :D
already some good estimations, but i´m afraid you won´t get it, it´s just way too untypical for my car taste... maybe i already said too much now... :wink:

but yes, it IS sporty in character, in that class even exceptional sporty, when it comes down to performance on track...only sligthly slower that a E46 M3... 8)

yep, as far as i know it´s available everywhere...

again, we´ll see maybe i´ll pick it up some time next week, depends on my time table... :?

Okay I'm guessing here but is it a EVO or a WRX?

st-anger 08-06-2004 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakatu
Quote:

Originally Posted by st-anger
Quote:

Originally Posted by lakatu
Quote:

Originally Posted by st-anger
:lol: 101% sure no one´ll guess it right...

Oh fun a puzzle :P . Okay lets see. What do we know.

It is rare or something different but not so rare that st-anger wasn’t already familiar with it.
The owner that owned it was from Switzerland. (But based on TT’s photos that could be anything.)
It is a summer ride only.
Wouldn’t personally buy the car. Not really st-angers type.
Not sporty in character but relaxing and comfortable.
St-anger already drives a Cayenne as a company car so probably not a SUV.

Need more clues :? .
Okay a question. Is it likely available in the U.S. st-anger?

lol m8, i was waiting for you and your guess :D
already some good estimations, but i´m afraid you won´t get it, it´s just way too untypical for my car taste... maybe i already said too much now... :wink:

but yes, it IS sporty in character, in that class even exceptional sporty, when it comes down to performance on track...only sligthly slower that a E46 M3... 8)

yep, as far as i know it´s available everywhere...

again, we´ll see maybe i´ll pick it up some time next week, depends on my time table... :?

Okay I'm guessing here but is it a EVO or a WRX?

no...

SilviaEvo 08-06-2004 05:50 PM

AUDI S4 or maybe even an RS6 surprised nobody guessed that yet

st-anger 08-06-2004 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilviaEvo
AUDI S4 or maybe even an RS6 surprised nobody guessed that yet

as the summer ride or the final replacement...???

well, obviously not the "summer car" and although i like Audi i´d buy a BMW any day over an Audi... 8)

sameerrao 08-06-2004 07:58 PM

Maybach 62! I knew it ... Maybe not

abbor 08-06-2004 08:07 PM

Focus RS..?

oscargarza88 08-06-2004 08:09 PM

this is tough since i dont know u but.... but is it a 4 door or 2 door cause if its a 2 door a guess would b a new corvette since its "not ur style" and i think its a bit slower than the m3... and its a good summer car so mayb... but i doubt it

abbor 08-06-2004 08:15 PM

The new corvette is not slower than the M3, at least not on TG!

oscargarza88 08-06-2004 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abbor
The new corvette is not slower than the M3, at least not on TG!

then woops, i just thought... caue i cant think of anythin else

lakatu 08-07-2004 10:53 AM

Okay is it a Honda Type R or a Toyota Caldina GT

sameerrao 08-07-2004 11:08 AM

Its a Volvo v70R

abbor 08-07-2004 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sameerrao
Its a Volvo v70R

V70R is a nice car.. And it's different, so I think you maybe chose the right one!

Sm@ck 08-07-2004 11:34 AM

St. Anger has one love = Porsche
how ever he has room for a mistress, historically she has been a = BMW

Both makes are known for their reliability, and sportiness. Since he is looking for a car for a short-term, until he decides on his final replacement, he is "maybe considering something more fun and less practical.

It wont be a porsche, but maybe a BMW? hmmmmm z4? hmmm 6 series? hmmm
nah I think it will be something totally different, and yet it will have to combine the reliability of a porsche and BMW ( I am out on a limb here)

my tip

Wiesmann Roadster. (because it contains a BMW powerplant)

TT 08-07-2004 11:40 AM

Z4 definitely not since I don't think he wants two of them :P

Anyway I wonder if he really wants to tell us before the car will actually be in his hands :D

Erez 08-07-2004 12:40 PM

:( sad.. i Love that car.. me and the 7er was just like you said too st-anger, love at first sight! what a great great car! hope a new BMW will replace it :D 760 maybe.. :D or a nice M5 8)

st-anger 08-07-2004 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TT
Z4 definitely not since I don't think he wants two of them :P

Anyway I wonder if he really wants to tell us before the car will actually be in his hands :D

lol, well, why not two of them, "my" Z4 is now my wife´s car i haven´t seen it the whole summer...

6series...well, again i had a quick look on it, some weeks ago when i fixed everything at my dealer, at first i thought that this would be the replacement but after thinking it over i´m not quite sure any more...there´re some reasons...

i can tell you right away, no problem, but i find it quite interesting what ppl are guessing... :wink:

DMbaseball1604 08-07-2004 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sameerrao
Damn for a minute I thought you were leaving JW and not the car! :?

Especially since you put this post on the Porsche central site! :D

yeah so did I!

BTW I'm surprised that you, esecially since you work for Porsche, would be driving a BMW..

Hmm I 'm very curious to know what your new car will be everything I can think of has already been guessed...

st-anger 08-07-2004 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMbaseball1604
Quote:

Originally Posted by sameerrao
Damn for a minute I thought you were leaving JW and not the car! :?

Especially since you put this post on the Porsche central site! :D

BTW I'm surprised that you, esecially since you work for Porsche, would be driving a BMW..

why that...???

DMbaseball1604 08-08-2004 02:18 PM

Just because, knowing as much as you do about Porsche and as much as you love them it just surprises me that your wife would drive a Z4 and you a 745Li..I mean I know you drive them all day and I can understand how you would want a long distance cruiser..and I would have thought that you would get some kind of a discount on all Porsches since you work for them, and not only that it would be easier to service the cars..ect..or like for instance my cousin works for Ford, and he and his family all drive Fords, the newer models though, they drive them for like three months and then give them back to the company and they then sell them a fraction lower than the list price..

st-anger 08-08-2004 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMbaseball1604
Just because, knowing as much as you do about Porsche and as much as you love them it just surprises me that your wife would drive a Z4 and you a 745Li..I mean I know you drive them all day and I can understand how you would want a long distance cruiser..and I would have thought that you would get some kind of a discount on all Porsches since you work for them, and not only that it would be easier to service the cars..ect..or like for instance my cousin works for Ford, and he and his family all drive Fords, the newer models though, they drive them for like three months and then give them back to the company and they then sell them a fraction lower than the list price..

lol, i expected such an answer :lol: :wink:

no, just to let u know, private i´m not into cars that much, i think i´ve said that several times b4, i´ve some other hobbys as well, and they are ALL non car related, you know when you´ve to deal with cars, and like me with Porsches, sometimes 50 to 70 hours a week, you´re more than happy to have some other things in life and not just only cars, so we don´t see a reason why to buy e.g. a Carrera, i mean i need (now needed) a comfortable relaxing car just for autobahn from austria to germany and to tell you, i always had BMW´s they are IMO the best cars for my purpose, and untill the 955 came up there were no alternatives, sure we get the Porsches quite below the dealer price but i never felt that i needed a Porsche for private use too, i have them at work and that´s more than enough for me, on the other hand i couldn´t enjoy such a car on public street anyways, i just need something practical, that´s it... :P

and my wife is a completely different story, for her everything with the Porsche badge on it is just for showing off :lol:
so she really isn´t into Porsche, well she isn´t into cars in general, it just has to look nice.....women i guess :wink:

nevertheless, one garage in our house is still free....maybe for a Porsche, maybe for something else, maybe not this year, .... well who knows, i already have something in mind but it´s a bit too early to tell...

so, in the end, i don´t give a shit if it´s a Porsche in my garage or not, i probably can afford any Porsche of the current line up - but i don´t need one :)

oscargarza88 08-08-2004 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st-anger
i probably can afford any Porsche of the current line up - but i don´t need one :)

any one?.... :roll:

st-anger 08-08-2004 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscargarza88
Quote:

Originally Posted by st-anger
i probably can afford any Porsche of the current line up - but i don´t need one :)

any one?.... :roll:

...i probably can afford any Porsche of the current line up...

that´s what i´ve said... :wink:

DMbaseball1604 08-08-2004 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st-anger
Quote:

Originally Posted by DMbaseball1604
Just because, knowing as much as you do about Porsche and as much as you love them it just surprises me that your wife would drive a Z4 and you a 745Li..I mean I know you drive them all day and I can understand how you would want a long distance cruiser..and I would have thought that you would get some kind of a discount on all Porsches since you work for them, and not only that it would be easier to service the cars..ect..or like for instance my cousin works for Ford, and he and his family all drive Fords, the newer models though, they drive them for like three months and then give them back to the company and they then sell them a fraction lower than the list price..

lol, i expected such an answer :lol: :wink:

no, just to let u know, private i´m not into cars that much, i think i´ve said that several times b4, i´ve some other hobbys as well, and they are ALL non car related, you know when you´ve to deal with cars, and like me with Porsches, sometimes 50 to 70 hours a week, you´re more than happy to have some other things in life and not just only cars, so we don´t see a reason why to buy e.g. a Carrera, i mean i need (now needed) a comfortable relaxing car just for autobahn from austria to germany and to tell you, i always had BMW´s they are IMO the best cars for my purpose, and untill the 955 came up there were no alternatives, sure we get the Porsches quite below the dealer price but i never felt that i needed a Porsche for private use too, i have them at work and that´s more than enough for me, on the other hand i couldn´t enjoy such a car on public street anyways, i just need something practical, that´s it... :P

and my wife is a completely different story, for her everything with the Porsche badge on it is just for showing off :lol:
so she really isn´t into Porsche, well she isn´t into cars in general, it just has to look nice.....women i guess :wink:

nevertheless, one garage in our house is still free....maybe for a Porsche, maybe for something else, maybe not this year, .... well who knows, i already have something in mind but it´s a bit too early to tell...

so, in the end, i don´t give a shit if it´s a Porsche in my garage or not, i probably can afford any Porsche of the current line up - but i don´t need one :)

haha, for my mom its the exact same story...my dad had a 993 Turbo and she hated it..not only because of the cost of insurance when you get 6 tickets in 3 months but also because she thought it was just for show and thats it..

lakatu 08-08-2004 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st-anger
lol, i expected such an answer :lol: :wink:

no, just to let u know, private i´m not into cars that much, i think i´ve said that several times b4, i´ve some other hobbys as well, and they are ALL non car related, you know when you´ve to deal with cars, and like me with Porsches, sometimes 50 to 70 hours a week, you´re more than happy to have some other things in life and not just only cars, so we don´t see a reason why to buy e.g. a Carrera, i mean i need (now needed) a comfortable relaxing car just for autobahn from austria to germany and to tell you, i always had BMW´s they are IMO the best cars for my purpose, and untill the 955 came up there were no alternatives, sure we get the Porsches quite below the dealer price but i never felt that i needed a Porsche for private use too, i have them at work and that´s more than enough for me, on the other hand i couldn´t enjoy such a car on public street anyways, i just need something practical, that´s it... :P

and my wife is a completely different story, for her everything with the Porsche badge on it is just for showing off :lol:
so she really isn´t into Porsche, well she isn´t into cars in general, it just has to look nice.....women i guess :wink:

nevertheless, one garage in our house is still free....maybe for a Porsche, maybe for something else, maybe not this year, .... well who knows, i already have something in mind but it´s a bit too early to tell...

so, in the end, i don´t give a shit if it´s a Porsche in my garage or not, i probably can afford any Porsche of the current line up - but i don´t need one :)

Makes perfect sense to me. Wanting to get away from cars that is. Actually it is surprising that you spend so much time here at PC talking about them with us. I think if it wasn’t for your kind nature you won’t bother but I am so glad you do :D . I know I sure enjoy being a part of a community that includes st-anger and like others can’t imagine what it would be like with out you.

You bring up another interesting point, as much as we love these outrageously fast cars they are really too fast for their own good :roll: . Realistically, the only place were you can push them to the limit and enjoy them without endangering yourself and others is on a race track. How often could an enthusiast go to the track a year unless he lived by the NS? Since sports cars aren't practical in any other sense than going fast and providing driver entertainment then if you don’t drive them as they were intended, you must be driving them for some other reason. That other reason as st-angers wife points out is “for show” :( . Kind of sad but true and that is exactly what most buyers of Porsches and other sports cars buy them for IMO. Why else do they come loaded up with amenities and options that weigh them down reducing their performance? The only place that you use to be able to make an argument that sports cars were practical was Germany with its autobahn. But even that has changed or is in the process of changing. What your left with is a car that is an exercise in frustration :roll: whenever you get in it. Because you know what it was design to do and most of us anyways want to do it but you can’t and if you do you can’t continue to do it for long.

There is a solution though. I have heard that there is a housing community development, I think it is in Spain, that is built around a race track where the designer took sections of famous tracks and linked them together to form his track. Now that sounds like the place to live. I think it was featured on 5th Gear so I’m sure others are already familiar with it. Hopefully it will catch on :wink: .

Drive4Ever 08-08-2004 09:24 PM

that's a once nice car. at first when the car first came out, i hated it. but as time goes, i start liking them. wow, the car has been out for 3 yrs now? jeez, time past by fast :shock:

st-anger 08-13-2004 03:16 PM

..."summer replacement" arrived 10mins ago, unfortunately extremely bad weather right now ( ...thunderstorm warnings for two days now, hopefully it´ll get better tomorrow ) and it´s 9pm here and already dark, so i´m afraid "we" have to wait till tomorrow for the details- but it´s nice IMO :lol: :wink:

hope to come back to you guys tomorrow with "quite some" pics... :wink:

No.1 08-13-2004 03:20 PM

^^^

I'm dying to know what it is :P ... how many doors? :wink:


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