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ZfrkS62 01-24-2006 08:42 PM

Just drove the M5
 
and is my neck fucking sore!!!

It came in for the Vanos oil line recall yesterday. Drove it a little bit then just to make sure it wasn't leaking. Traffic was bad by the time i got out so just took it for a spin around the block.

Well the jackass owner brings it back saying i didn't fix shit because there was still a quart (read: 3 drops) of oil in his driveway :roll: So after removing the panels and cleaning them and rechecking the oil level, my shop foreman tells me i need to reset the sensor and drive the car for awhile until it starts reading right (i haven't been to M5 class so i have idea how the system works. There is no dipstick and oil level monitoring can take up to 30 miles to read the correct level :roll: stupid ass idea IMO)

So, i finally get a chance to get onto a stretch of freeway that is somewhat uninhabited. Made a quick run up to 75 in 400hp mode with the shift setting at S5. The responsiveness is insane, the shifts are beautifully brutal and quick and the noise :love: :drool:

The road i'm on is 10 miles of damn near pure straight-a-way. A few sweeping curves but nothing that would cause you to lift too horribly. I've got the radio off and i'm just basking in the sound of the V10 practically idling in 7th gear at 2600 RPM (about 80 iirc). Finally the end of the road comes up. i pull off into a driveway to turn around, set the controls to P500 and start off back the way i came. The sound was incredible. 10 X more so than P400. It's got a much louder, direct howl. Out of the bottom of my eye i can see enough of the HUD's tach display to know i'm closing in on redline, and just before it tops off, the display flashes and i smack the paddle. The shift was had enough to cause me to realize that i really should have been sitting all the way against the back of the seat (hence the sore neck) still in S5(i didn't dare turn off the DSC and go S6) i go through 2nd and 3rd as if they weren't there before letting off.

There was one more straight section coming up and it was all clear, so down my foot went and up the speedo went. Bugs hittng the windshield are quite noisy at 130 :lol: I decided that was enough and put it back in P400 and cruised back to the shop.

One of the things i find quite interesting is the side supports on the seat will "hug" you as you go into a turn to keep you from sliding. As you go into a left, the right side will push you back, and vise versa. Very interesting feeling if you aren't used to it :lol:

This car is absolutely amazing. Not being a racecar driver, or even owning a high powered car, i admit the power on tap is enough to spook me into thinking that i don't want to drive a Ferrari anytime in the very near future, let alone turning off the traction control in P500 Sport. I compltey zoned out of the fact that this is a sedan. It just doesn't feel like one.

I eagerly await the arrival of our first M6 in a few months :D

Zot09 01-24-2006 08:54 PM

The M5 is one hell of a car! My friends dad recently bought one, and I can totally agree with you!

Astonfan 01-24-2006 09:54 PM

sounds like one bad ass car. i saw one on the road the other day, black with temp tags on, god that thing looked wicked

blinkmeat 01-24-2006 11:00 PM

I envy your fine ass Z :wink:

initiala4 01-24-2006 11:14 PM

i heard that the shifts are quite jerky

ZfrkS62 01-24-2006 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by initiala4
i heard that the shifts are quite jerky

In S5 and 6 and D5 they are pretty harsh. But in the lwer programs they are fairly soft.

Starting out isn't as bad as the magazines and shows say it is. If you lightly apply the accelerator, the clutch will gently engage. The faster your foot goes down, the harer the clutch engages.

Banchi105 01-24-2006 11:22 PM

Thanks for the detailed write up.

I hope to one day post something similar myself!

ae86_16v 01-24-2006 11:34 PM

You lucky son of a bitch. . . hahaha :) . And what did the owner say about the miles you put on his car? :D

I heard that all the new ones don't have a dip stick huh? The computer monitors it for you?

gigdy 01-24-2006 11:42 PM

So does it keep a log of, miles driven and top speed and stuff? Say that the owner could look at?

skituner 01-24-2006 11:57 PM

you are sooo lucky.

StanAE86 01-25-2006 12:12 AM

BASTARD I SAY!

ZfrkS62 01-25-2006 12:18 AM

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And what did the owner say about the miles you put on his car?
what choice does he have? Until we figure out the trick to this oil sensor, it's going to require some driving :wink:

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heard that all the new ones don't have a dip stick huh? The computer monitors it for you?
yeah. kinda shitty. But, if it gets the owner to check the damn oil level once in awhile, then so be it.

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So does it keep a log of, miles driven and top speed and stuff? Say that the owner could look at?
nope :mrgreen:

sentra_dude 01-25-2006 12:31 AM

Sweeeet dude! Thanks for the detailed write-up, I always enjoy reading the thoughts of JW members. :D :P ;)

ZfrkS62 01-25-2006 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmojo77
One of the best working days in your career? :D Must have been an experience with a capital E. Makes me think what would be comparable event in my working field... hmm... there is no comparable event possible :lol: Wait, maybe if there would be electrical emergency in one of the car factories using our products.

it was definetly an experience to remember. I hope to ave a similar write up when the E90 M3 comes out but that may be awhile :( So far this is the highlight of my short career :D

RC45 01-25-2006 03:38 AM

On JW w ehave this rule....

It involves pictorial evidence... or the holding of ones tongue... :P ;)

ae86_16v 01-25-2006 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RC45
On JW w ehave this rule....

It involves pictorial evidence... or the holding of ones tongue... :P ;)

^ Hahaha. . . that's right. Pics or STFU. Hahaha!!!!

Pehtren 01-25-2006 03:50 AM

wooooow, man im really :drool: on my keyboard, i love this car, and im very happy that the M5 is a good car, when i read the topics of new owners on M5board, they are pretty much the same 8) (they are pretty impressed) :twisted:

so thanks for this review, its always better to hear it fro JW member :D

RC45 01-25-2006 04:21 AM

I wonder how happy the M5 owner would be to know that someone else was beating the not out of his car? ;) :P

Pehtren 01-25-2006 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RC45
I wonder how happy the M5 owner would be to know that someone else was beating the not out of his car? ;) :P

:lol:

So be quite :mrgreen:

nejcdolinsek 01-25-2006 04:38 AM

DAMN DAMN DAMN!!!!! That must have been one hell of a thrill/adrenaline ride!

As others have said, WE NEED PROOF!!! :wink: :wink:

Congrats for the ride of your life! :D

DeMoN 01-25-2006 08:36 AM

id be happy if I ever go to germany and have some guy at the ring drive me around... you on the other hand, drove it... must have been the experience of your life!

Just_me 01-25-2006 08:37 AM

Re: Just drove the M5
 
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Originally Posted by ZfrkS62
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I eagerly await the arrival of our first M6 in a few months :D

Ive driven the M6. you wont be disappointed :D

dutchmasterflex 01-25-2006 09:54 AM

there ain't nothing like taking someone else's sports car out for a spin by yourself ;)

must of been one hell of a day at work!

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So does it keep a log of, miles driven and top speed and stuff? Say that the owner could look at?
Would be hilarious if the next time the M5 owner started the car up it displayed:
New Top Speed Record Set!
155.3mph by ZFrk

MIHALS 01-25-2006 09:55 AM

You are one piece of lucky bastard Z! :D

congrats and thanks for sharing your exciting experience! but damn, as said > PICS or STFU :fist: :prr: :mrgreen:

twboy1999 01-25-2006 10:33 AM

glad u have fun with it
always fun to give the car some WOT

ZfrkS62 01-25-2006 02:02 PM

:lol: I've posted pics the car itself when it was in the show room, but there is no way i can pics of it while driving. That would be a little suspicious :lol: Besides, it's handling is amazing, but i would not venture taking my off the wheel long enough to snap a pic of it. my comfort level isn't quite there yet :lol:

the car is still here though. BMW may have me replace the oil level sensor and send it back to them so they can determine what needs to be changed to make an updated part.

ARMAN 01-25-2006 02:37 PM

I can understand why you not post pics and to I dont see nothing wrong driving car a bit faster if that what it takes to make it work fine then :wink:

ZfrkS62 01-25-2006 02:50 PM

[quote="dani_d_mas"]Dude - I envy you so much... my work doesn't offer this kind of oportunities :? :P

It must have been an awesome experience mate - and the moment 'review' was a good read!! :D

Congrats... and tell us what you think about the M6 and the E90 E30 once they broke down and land in your garage :P :wink:[/quote

Yeah but you get to race cars on the weekend. I'd glaly switch with you for a week if it meant getting to race :(

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I wonder how happy the M5 owner would be to know that someone else was beating the not out of his car?
I"m sure he'd bitch and moan, but just because he's an asshole.

He'd be more relived if the engine blew up on us rather than him, but BMW would cover it because the oil level sensor isn't operation correctly. And since there is no dipstick to check it (again, stupid fucking idea) there would have been no way for us to know wether oil was low or not without draining and measuring the oil, which i just did.

RC45 01-25-2006 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ZfrkS62
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I wonder how happy the M5 owner would be to know that someone else was beating the not out of his car?
I"m sure he'd bitch and moan, but just because he's an asshole.

You don't have to be an arsehole to not appreciate someone else beating the piss out of YOUR new expensive automobile.

ZfrkS62 01-25-2006 04:13 PM

i would hardly call it "beating the piss" out if it. Epecially since the engine was DESIGNED for it.

and at least this way, we know there isn't any air in the Vanos hydraulic circuit :D

1zippo1 01-25-2006 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dutchmasterflex
Quote:

So does it keep a log of, miles driven and top speed and stuff? Say that the owner could look at?
Would be hilarious if the next time the M5 owner started the car up it displayed:
New Top Speed Record Set!
155.3mph by ZFrk

Must have been quite a cool experience. I think I would have gotten the same feeling: thank god for that traction control with 500hp on tap...

My dads car had a range display based on the fuel consumption of the last 30kms. And at one time I only had 20 min to do about 30kms so I was pushing it as fast as I could. My dad said that the next day he saw the range double after half an hour :P I had resetted all the other stuff (average speed, ...) but I couldn't do the same for the range .

ZfrkS62 01-25-2006 06:44 PM

yeah, the traction control isn't as much of a babysitter as what JC says it is, but it's nice to know it's there.

The avg speed fortunately doesn't really indicate much about the trip. and the consumption avg. was already low when it came in. I had to take the car to lunch again today and just tooled around in it to get my food, so the consumption figure should have changed. Luckily i work near the college here in town so when i went to lunch, guess where i went cruising :mrgreen: :lol:

I'd also like to say again, that all the complaints that the magazines log against the SMG in city traffic is a bunch of hooey. and JC is off his rocker as well. the thing they see when they get into the car is the gas and brake pedals so in their minds it's an automatic transmission, which we all know you can stomp on and you won't go anywhere until the torque converter gets the fluid going in the trans. It doesn't occur to them that the SMG is a manual transmission with an electro-hydraulic system attatched to it to actuate the clutch and gear change, and as soon as you start applying the gas, the clutch is let out by the system and the mechanical connection is made between the engine and trans, just like your average 5 or 6 spd gearbox. The harder and faster you press, the faster the clutch is engaged. so as long as you ease on the gas, the clutch will ease into the flywheel and you'll start to move seamlessly. This isn't to say that you can stomp on it the moment you feel movement, because it'll just dump the clutch and give you and your passengers whiplash. It just takes a little bit of patience to get the feel of it. Something magazines and Jeremy Clarkson don't seem to have.

RC45 01-25-2006 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ZfrkS62
i would hardly call it "beating the piss" out if it. Epecially since the engine was DESIGNED for it.

and at least this way, we know there isn't any air in the Vanos hydraulic circuit :D

Nice try ;)

But BMW along with other manufacturers often void warranties for "abuse" when they are tired of paying for repairs.. :P ;)

Manufacturers will straight up tell you "just because it can do that doesn't mean we will support the product if you do" ;)

gangajas 01-25-2006 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RC45
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZfrkS62
i would hardly call it "beating the piss" out if it. Epecially since the engine was DESIGNED for it.

and at least this way, we know there isn't any air in the Vanos hydraulic circuit :D

Nice try ;)

But BMW along with other manufacturers often void warranties for "abuse" when they are tired of paying for repairs.. :P ;)

Manufacturers will straight up tell you "just because it can do that doesn't mean we will support the product if you do" ;)

C'mon, that is something a lot of mechanics (all around the world) do to know if a car consumes oil and things like that...

ZfrkS62 01-25-2006 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RC45
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Originally Posted by ZfrkS62
i would hardly call it "beating the piss" out if it. Epecially since the engine was DESIGNED for it.

and at least this way, we know there isn't any air in the Vanos hydraulic circuit :D

Nice try ;)

But BMW along with other manufacturers often void warranties for "abuse" when they are tired of paying for repairs.. :P ;)

Manufacturers will straight up tell you "just because it can do that doesn't mean we will support the product if you do" ;)

Where's the proof of that?

AFAIK BMW has never revoked a warranty for driving a car hard unless it was bought to be a track rat.

all the M3 motors that have failed have been warrantied. Hell , BMW even warranties a clutch :wink:

BMW isn't the company that scoured forums and voided warranties for SCCA events *cough*Subaru*Cough*

Pehtren 01-26-2006 09:52 AM

^^^cool. becouse i have a friend, who has near his hous a bmw repairshop...

and he says that all the new bmw are all the time there, becouse of a lot of failours :roll:

becouse the bmw is the best car maker in the world, for me...i dont belive him 8)

Sir_GT 01-26-2006 11:36 PM

*sigh* Bimmer bashing again...

Even though Mercedes, Audi, and Daewoo rank far worse in the reliability and customer satisfaction scale...

ZfrkS62 01-26-2006 11:50 PM

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On the other hand if I had seen some mechanic driving like an idiot in the twisties
Which is why i was on a straight road :wink:

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*sigh* Bimmer bashing again...
When you're at the top, You're a more popular target :wink:

oh, and the E39 M5 i drove today is just slow now compared to the E60 :wink:

Honda_PoD 01-27-2006 12:33 AM

Wow man that is when i say drop graphic design and work at a BMW shop. :shock: where can i sign up.... :D

SilviaEvo 01-27-2006 12:40 AM

nice job driving the new M5 Z. i just saw one at Best Buy by Barrier! chased it around the parkinglot as well. hahaha

ZfrkS62 01-27-2006 12:42 AM

HAHAHA!! I can see you doing that :lol: Were you on a bike as well? :lol:

Mopar, just go enroll at an automotive school and you'll be on your way :wink:

ae86_16v 01-27-2006 01:37 AM

Z, what's the designation for the new M motor?

SilviaEvo 01-27-2006 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ZfrkS62
HAHAHA!! I can see you doing that :lol: Were you on a bike as well? :lol:

Mopar, just go enroll at an automotive school and you'll be on your way :wink:

i was in my friends 325i so a little more advanced than TT's bike hahaha

ZfrkS62 01-27-2006 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ae86_16v
Z, what's the designation for the new M motor?

S85B50

That reminds me, i need to update my BMW thread i think.

Honda_PoD 01-27-2006 01:54 PM

maybe it has to do with that metal sound they make?...... but i am not all knowing :)

RC45 01-27-2006 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by brembo
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Originally Posted by Sir_GT
*sigh* Bimmer bashing again...

Even though Mercedes, Audi, and Daewoo rank far worse in the reliability and customer satisfaction scale...



LOL and since when did stating facts become bashing??

didnt the previous M3 have engine troubble???

and now the new M5 got engine troubble???

It aint that far fetched that they will screw it up again..... :wink:

I know you like to pose in a bimmer dude, but you cant blame me for making that remark, with the track record they got of late with their M engines.... :roll:

brembo - such a level headed guy ;) :)

nthfinity 01-27-2006 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir_GT
*sigh* Bimmer bashing again...

Even though Mercedes, Audi, and Daewoo rank far worse in the reliability and customer satisfaction scale...

since when does Daewoo belong in the same sentence as Mercedes, and Audi... in a topic about a BMW

:shock: :roll: :wink:

dutchmasterflex 01-27-2006 04:50 PM

^^^ hahha, i didnt even notice that...

bmw, benz, audi.... daewoo?!?!?

nthfinity 01-27-2006 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by brembo


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Originally Posted by nthfinity
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Originally Posted by Sir_GT
*sigh* Bimmer bashing again...

Even though Mercedes, Audi, and Daewoo rank far worse in the reliability and customer satisfaction scale...

since when does Daewoo belong in the same sentence as Mercedes, and Audi... in a topic about a BMW

:shock: :roll: :wink:



Well considering the look of the new 3 series the tail lights resemble something from Daewoo, maybe thats why he mix them up in a BMW topic..... :P :wink:

nonetheless... a korean car doesn't even come close to being anywhere near as good as a beamer in anybody's mind, except mabey looks... and thats just a subjective opinion :wink:

the 3 series may blend in with every other car out there.. .but at least they are sitll doing something with the Z4... something i like... and the coupe concept even more :)

honestly, there is no longer an Audi that is a direct competitor to the M5/M6 so i see no reason to bash it :wink: since the new RS6 is going directly after mercedes in terms of power, and retaining its BMW-ish handling... and winter surviving... also, the price bracket is going to be something else entirely.

nthfinity 01-27-2006 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by insane
Hahaha, that must have been fun. You should have cheked tho if he has the limiter moved by trying to take it over 250kph... :D

in the words of RC... "oh no, not the infamous BMW speedometer again" lol


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