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nthfinity 03-23-2008 10:04 PM

Car and Driver Nissan Skyline GTR R35
 
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5vz-fe 03-23-2008 10:46 PM

As expected results, very similar to the R&T conclusion. <Yawn>

Thanks for the article tho nth :)

styla21 03-23-2008 10:50 PM

What does the 5-60 time of 4.1sec mean? As denoted on the bottom left under the acceleration chart. (The last page)
Thanks Nth.

5vz-fe 03-23-2008 11:00 PM

^Street start. Mostly attribute to the low inertia turbo, broad torque curve, great transmission and aggressive 1st and 2nd gearing.

styla21 03-23-2008 11:23 PM

Thanks 5vz-fe. :-)
This may seem completely ignorant, but why is this time greatly slower than the 0-60?.. This doesn't make sense to me. A rolling start should make the time quicker, right?

nthfinity 03-23-2008 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by styla21 (Post 823286)
Thanks 5vz-fe. :-)
This may seem completely ignorant, but why is this time greatly slower than the 0-60?.. This doesn't make sense to me. A rolling start should make the time quicker, right?

Your assuming that you can drop the clutch from high revs while rolling @ 5mph.... and have boost built up .... that doesn't happen, particularly with the GTR...

styla21 03-23-2008 11:44 PM

Yeah Nth you're right.
I just still belong to the sceptics society in relation to the times posted..
They're astonishing!

5vz-fe 03-24-2008 12:22 AM

^The times should be pretty accurate. Most magazines so far are able to obtain similar numbers. The thing that some of us are pondering is how long would it take before the GT-R's weight work against it's performance numbers. (Brake fade, tire overheats, heat soak on turbos...)

yg60m 03-24-2008 09:43 AM

Thank you. It posted incredible numbers !! 0-100 in 7.8 s is at Ferrari 599 GTB level ...

nthfinity 03-24-2008 10:10 AM

One should read:
This is a Engineering mule that they tested... not a production car ;)

toffytofik 03-24-2008 11:37 AM

There's a rumor whenever the magazine testers get their hands on the GTR there's always a bunch of suspicious-looking japanese folks hanging around nearby. Apparently they are controlling the boost on the car from their cellphones via bluetooth - bumping it whenever the car's on the track and lowering it while at the dyno. One of them was spotted wearing the strange "Live-Up-With-The-Hype-Crew" T-shirt. :mrgreen:

I mean, i'm still quite sure the power is underrated. These numbers are simply mind-blowing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5vz-fe (Post 823296)
The thing that some of us are pondering is how long would it take before the GT-R's weight work against it's performance numbers. (Brake fade, tire overheats, heat soak on turbos...)

How long? Well, not long :D
I recall the stress on the tires became noticeable right in the end of 5 laps Tsukuba race in Best Motoring when Tsuchiya faced a good amount of understeer. What else to expect from a 1740kg heavyass (even if it's perfectly engineered heavyass) that overuses it's front tires?

oh and btw,
Quote:

Originally Posted by nthfinity (Post 823274)
Car and Driver Nissan Skyline GTR R35

not a Skyline anymore, it doesn't deserve it. :mrgreen:

RC45 03-24-2008 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yg60m (Post 823357)
Thank you. It posted incredible numbers !! 0-100 in 7.8 s is at Ferrari 599 GTB level ...

Yep - those are quick numbers - I would like to see what a regular person on regular roads can achieve.

ferrarif1fan89 03-24-2008 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RC45 (Post 823418)
Yep - those are quick numbers - I would like to see what a regular person on regular roads can achieve.

I would'nt be surprised if theyre the same numbers, what with the launch control and dual clutch gearbox making this kind of thing easy.

RC45 03-24-2008 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ferrarif1fan89 (Post 823419)
I would'nt be surprised if theyre the same numbers, what with the launch control and dual clutch gearbox making this kind of thing easy.

You wouold think so, however this would make the GT-R the first car in the history of the world to simply "match testers" numbers on any road for any driver ;)

I mean - just pull up to a standstill on any road... and hit the gas. ANyhwo, without super-computer help and slick engineered auto-toys, few people can shift their way to 60mph in 3.5s on a regular street. :)

styla21 03-24-2008 06:19 PM

I Just. Don't. Believe. It.

This car is physics defying..

5vz-fe 03-24-2008 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC45 (Post 823421)
You wouold think so, however this would make the GT-R the first car in the history of the world to simply "match testers" numbers on any road for any driver ;)

I mean - just pull up to a standstill on any road... and hit the gas. ANyhwo, without super-computer help and slick engineered auto-toys, few people can shift their way to 60mph in 3.5s on a regular street. :)

As involving as a SL63, maybe even less dramatic given the 4WD system.

nthfinity 03-25-2008 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC45 (Post 823421)
You wouold think so, however this would make the GT-R the first car in the history of the world to simply "match testers" numbers on any road for any driver ;)

I mean - just pull up to a standstill on any road... and hit the gas. ANyhwo, without super-computer help and slick engineered auto-toys, few people can shift their way to 60mph in 3.5s on a regular street. :)

until you get into silly power numbers (above 700rwhp) the Ford GT is not far from idiot proof to launch sub 4 seconds to 60 mph.... of course, it helps that it hits 63 in 1st gear

RC45 03-25-2008 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nthfinity (Post 823488)
until you get into silly power numbers (above 700rwhp) the Ford GT is not far from idiot proof to launch sub 4 seconds to 60 mph.... of course, it helps that it hits 63 in 1st gear

I am sure on paper this is true, but I think many "regular folks" will be surprised how hard it is to shift your way to sub-4s on the street.

I would love to see the results of average high-HP drivers as they try to put magazine numbers down on random public streets :)

dutchmasterflex 03-25-2008 10:39 AM

All it takes is practice.. and money for tires.

nthfinity 03-25-2008 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dutchmasterflex (Post 823558)
All it takes is practice.. and money for tires.

and Clutch, and possible gearbox issues eventually... and possibly 1/2 shafts, and rear differentials, and driveshaft maybe :P.....

79TA 03-25-2008 04:15 PM

These acceleration times are faster than the ones listed in the R&T article. In R&T the GTR took 8.6 whereas it somehow got .8 seconds quicker in this test. I think the term "test mule" or perhaps "warmed over test car" would explain the difference.


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