Are we going to have to save GM ... again?
Looks like GM and Chrysler are the only two brands we declining sales in December after the sale off boom...:thumbdown:
Ford is doing great though :thumbup: Kia U.S. Dec. sales rise 44% to 21,048 vehicles Hyundai U.S. December sales up 40.6% to 33,797 Ford December U.S. sales up 32.8% to 184,655 units Toyota Dec. U.S. auto sales up 32% to 187,860 Honda Dec. U.S. sales jump 24.5% to 107,143 units Nissan Dec. U.S. sales up 18.2% to 73,404 vehicles Volkswagen U.S. December sales rise 16% Porsche December U.S. sales rise 1.7% Daimler U.S. Dec. sales rise 0.2% to 20,889 units Chrysler Dec. U.S. sales fall 3.7% to 86,523 GM Dec. U.S. sales down 6.1% to 208,511 vehicles |
GM sold off a majority of the Saturn and Pontiac branded cars remaining at insane discounts last month. Now that those are basically gone; new car sales will go up a little. GM isn't doing well... leadership is lacking.
Fiat have a legacy of cars that people don't want. Chrysler have a few good cars, and have relied upon those few good cars far too heavily. It will take time to revamp the line up. Maserati, Rolls Royce, and Lamborghini are really hurting. |
Daimler?
Also stop knocking FIAT it's so far improved that it's a good car, its image is sticking obviously but for five years they've been better than Chrysler. We only have a limited number of the range here but I've worked with Voyagers, Grand Cherokees, and 300Cs and of that the 300C is the best but in a horribly tacky way. FIAT don't really have a badged equivalent but ALFA do, and it's loads better. |
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Wow look at KIA's boom. I guess im not the only one looking at that company for the first time. Genious of them to bring that Audi guy over. Past KIA's were pretty awful to look at. Now owned by Hyundai they're not crap to drive anymore either lol
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FIAT's range is very new, it even supplies engines to GM and shares platforms, which were developed by FIAT with GM and Ford. |
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Fiat doesn't "supply" GM with engines and platforms. They "co-own" the technology. It doesn't mean Fiat makes engine for GM, nor did that stop GM from developing more advanced powertrain for Opel/Vauxhall. The same thing with the platform design. Of course, it works the other way around too. The Alfa 159 runs a GM V6 with some modifications. Frankly Fiat Chrysler merger kills development of new platforms for either company. They don't have enough money going around both of them. I think it's all but secret that they pretty much agreed that they are only going to build new models off current platforms. Meaning, yes. They will be outdated pretty quickly. |
Fiesta/500? I think you means ka/500.
Also Alfa uses just the block from the GM unit, all induction, heads, management, ancillaries are different. |
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But my point remains. |
Fiat is still a much more modern company than Chrysler.
Check out the multiair system, the biggest step forward since fuel injection apparently. |
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