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Toronto 11-01-2005 05:49 PM

5th Gear's cheap shots @ Top Gear getting annoying?
 
grow, they are like little kids,
not only are THEY the ones that copy the other, they are the only ones pulling this cheap shots in every episode

they will never be better then top gear IMO, but they have their own high poits and should keep to them rather then trying to copy top gear everyear.

anyone else getting annoyed with these?

Evo 11-01-2005 05:56 PM

I really want their show to be good I try to like it because of tiff and Vicky. But don't know why thy are a bit ....... I can't really put my finger on it but their is something wrong.. Maybe they are trying to hard to beat Top gear.. Maybe tiff is not a natural presenter but I know for sure he is a natural driver.. and they should stop 2 thing making reference of top gear on their show as they did with the 4th episode with michael and they should stop with that stupid crash test thing..

Anonymous 11-01-2005 06:11 PM

Have to agree, they just don't get humour IMO, top gear have the odd offhand dig once in a blue moon, fifth gear are doing in to regularly now and none of them are comedians :roll:

Blip 11-01-2005 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Evo
I really want their show to be good I try to like it because of tiff and Vicky. But don't know why thy are a bit ....... I can't really put my finger on it but their is something wrong.. Maybe they are trying to hard to beat Top gear.. Maybe tiff is not a natural presenter but I know for sure he is a natural driver.. and they should stop 2 thing making reference of top gear on their show as they did with the 4th episode with michael and they should stop with that stupid crash test thing..

Yes there is something strange about fifth gear. It feels different. Maybe the producer and camera people are not as good as on Top gear. the new series is much better though. I don't think they should try to compete with Top Gear instead they should make use of the excellent driving talents; Tiff and VBH. The old top gear from the 90's where Tiff used to drive everything was amazing.

I like the comedy style of JC but he is changing top gear to make get more audience (more non-car enthusiast audience). Which is bad for us. The star in a reasonably priced car is entertaining but I would rather watch any car going round a track than some music celebrity who can't drive.

anyway it's probably better if they don't try to copy from each other so we have 2 unique to watch.

racer_f50 11-01-2005 08:09 PM

yep, the copying and constant cheap shots are definitely annoying. Even getting Schumacher in on it is just stupid and childish. pretty obvious that they're quite jealous of Top Gear's success and production quality, so they're always trying to rip off their ideas and most of it is pretty obvious. I still enjoy the show, but I wish they'd find some more unique ideas besides the shoot-outs and crash tests.

Sure, Clarkson might have made one or two small jokes about it in the past couple seasons (only one that i can really remember, when someone asked him his favorite gear), but for the most part those 3 just fool around and put on a good show :)

sameerrao 11-01-2005 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
As I've said more than once, having three good drivers as they have - Vicky, Tiff and Plato - they should concentrate in what they do better - TRACK action.

Testing racing cars, testing hardcore sports cars like the Exige of the CSL, Radicals, Caterhams, rallye cars, Plato's Seat Toledo BTCC...

Forget the crash tests, forget Jon Bentley, forget the headquarters... just go to Anglesey, build something like TG's hangar... and concentrate in that - testing cars at the track.

Werd 8)

gobs3z 11-01-2005 08:59 PM

The jokes are all in good fun, and there is no competition since they are in totally different seasons. I think the jokes between JC and Tiff are more relevant though since they have a great past together, and since they follow each other fairly closely. We're still going to watch the show no matter what, and if it doesn't bother Top Gear then i don't give a rats ass. You also have to realize that 5th gear will always be overshadowed by Top Gear, and they really are trying to make do with what they are given without always being compared to the almighty Top Gear show.

nthfinity 11-01-2005 09:02 PM

it does get annoying... like a successful former employee trying to get back at the BBC for cancelling a great show; but 8 seasons on... its quite old :roll:

i actually prefer Tiff to Jezza most of the time... and it was sooo great when they were together; where one counter-balanced the other; a ying-yang review style. that doesnt exist now in TG, nor in 5th gear.

i think it would be great if 5th gear HQ was actually at Anglesy, and they could muster up the sportscars of the world to run through the tests... but I cannot stress the sweetness enough the benefits of an airfield! where else can you be an ABSOLUTE hooligan on 4 wheels? cirtainly not on anglesee... although you can do some hooliganisms; its not 'unrestricted' but definately gives an idea of how the car performs and handles much better then an empty airfield.

that is why 5th gear and top gear need each other; as separate as they are, they definately need eachother for their stylized reviews.

CMonakar 11-01-2005 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by everso
5th Gear is just an irritating show altogether. the only thing good about it is Jason Plato......and Tom Ford can be funny sometimes.

Vicki is a fat irritating ho....and Tiff is just a nerd...he's a good driver though.

Agreed. I think Plato is the most balanced presenter out of everyone in the two shows. He is a great driver, his commentary is insightful, and he has a good sense of humor that even non car enthusiasts can appreciate.

Johns 11-01-2005 11:45 PM

I have to say that Tiff doesnt seem interested anymore in reviewing cars. Every year it goes down the hill! I dont think he lost the passion. Comparing his early years to now, its starting to suck!!

AlienDB7 11-02-2005 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ccarlisi
Quote:

Originally Posted by everso
5th Gear is just an irritating show altogether. the only thing good about it is Jason Plato......and Tom Ford can be funny sometimes.

Vicki is a fat irritating ho....and Tiff is just a nerd...he's a good driver though.

Agreed. I think Plato is the most balanced presenter out of everyone in the two shows. He is a great driver, his commentary is insightful, and he has a good sense of humor that even non car enthusiasts can appreciate.

I wish they bring Driven back. I liked Jason on Driven alot more than 5th Gear... I think its style is more suitable for 5th Gear.

htfaber 11-02-2005 07:19 AM

I'm sorry if I miss the point completely but I love 5th Gear!
Sure Top Gear is good in a producing and commentating way with Clarkson, but the way 5th Gear DRIVES cars is fantastic! The reaction of Jason after driving the Zonda F and Tiff and Vicky after the BMW F1 vs M5 contest.....I just loved it.

And those jokes about Top Gear....I think the Top Gear and 5th Gear crew talk to each other often enough to just tease each other with those sort of jokes. If it were real they would probably not say it.

Well, my conclusion is that its great to have two car shows that are so good!

Anonymous 11-02-2005 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by htfaber

And those jokes about Top Gear....I think the Top Gear and 5th Gear crew talk to each other often enough to just tease each other with those sort of jokes. If it were real they would probably not say it.

Well put it this way, tiff drove in both stars in fast cars and a recent charity carting event organised by jeremy, don't think things are that bad between them, just 5th gear are making references to often now, just boring and cringe worthy

Shinigami 11-02-2005 07:32 AM

I don't like Vicky... Tiff is cool tho'. Hammond reminds me of Tiff from time to time.

911GT1 11-21-2005 09:18 PM

The only thing that makes me watch 5th gear is tiff. He's a great guy, colourfull at times, very good driver (much better than any top gear presenters incl stig but thats just my opinion) and likeable. If somehow they manage to replace the stig with tiff, other car programs can just pack up.

goldfinger147 11-22-2005 04:28 PM

A car related show should be about the driving and the cars, not about the humor, yes clarkson may bring more humor but the drivers on 5th gear are just far better and its more entertaining to watch them drive then to hear them talk. Plus if you compare it to any auto show here in the U.S. either one of them is the greatest show on earth.

yg60m 11-22-2005 04:33 PM

Hum, I find that the world is better with 5th Gear than without :wink: But, sometimes, it is frustating to watch as I expect a lot from this or this test but don't get what I was expecting (see the Koenigsegg and M6 tests). I am used to that because the french show, Turbo is even worse for that !!! ( the Veyron's test was a disastrous )
And there are a lot of good tests in 5th Gear : the F430, F430 Spider, SLR, Enzo ... they are not far from being as good or even better than Top Gear's one :wink:
BTW, I wait for a Carrera GT test :P

nchs09 11-22-2005 09:50 PM

who cares? its just a tv show mate

corvette97 11-23-2005 01:55 PM

Top gear is great because JC is a sarcastic clown :P

Tiff is more serious and really showing whats better on the car, in the other hand JC shows whats bad in great cars. So each program is great in their type :roll:

abcdefghijk 11-23-2005 02:08 PM

5th gear is really going downhill this series, and the new format of the show just isn't working.. a good concept spoilt by lacklustre presenters and lame features, only tiff doing tracktests is worth viewing now :(

corvette97 11-23-2005 02:20 PM

they dont have a place like top gear hangar to show the cars, in top gear you see the car on the track and you can appreciate the car's beauty and power, insted fifth gear has a track with multiple camera angles but no camera-following car shot so its kinda boring :(

No.1 11-23-2005 05:17 PM

I agree with Dans comments

The new studio style is a piss poor attempt at mimicking TG, and it fails to work because there is no chemistry/comedy between the presenters.

Tiff's track driving is as amazing as ever, but it is ashame that this only lasts for less than 10mins in a 45min show :roll:

And the team are useless at getting a car to run. If it doesn't work, wait until you can get one that does instead of making a short-arse feature from a broken car - nobody wants to see a Koenigseeg sitting still, whilst somebody tells us the clutch is fucked :roll:

Definitely i would love to see a return to the normal 30min format, or even Tiff being snapped up by TG, and the other presenters placed in a jail for poor presenting skill

Toronto 11-23-2005 11:28 PM

if you make a list of pros and cons in you head for top gear and 5th gear,
the amount of cons for top gear is less then the amount of pros for 5th gear
so simply
top gear > 5th gear

corvette97 11-24-2005 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toronto
if you make a list of pros and cons in you head for top gear and 5th gear,
the amount of cons for top gear is less then the amount of pros for 5th gear
so simply
top gear > 5th gear

let's start :twisted:

Fleischmann 11-24-2005 03:33 AM

The thing about 5th Gear that makes the viewer want to cry is the "fakeness" of the crew. When they are in the building and start talking...they try to be funny and just generally relaxed and easy going but it just doesn't work. Take for example the episode from a few days ago...when Tiff started arguing over who won the race- him or the scooter driver. Pathetic :roll: And VBH should stop with her stupid laughter, a time she sounds like an elephant being poked with a spear.

No.1 11-24-2005 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Fleischmann
And VBH should stop with her stupid laughter, a time she sounds like an elephant being poked with a spear.

That's definitely a new way to describe her :lol:

sledgeham 12-02-2005 01:44 AM

she's trying a bit too hard to look "hot" as well
thats slightly weird i think

anyway, the show needs some new features cuz the existing shit (pointless crashes with some dyed dude) is getting boring

hope it gets better, cuz i'd hate to see it go down against TG
tiff's the best thing (and Tom's a riot) abt the show
i dont like JC but i love the show for the way they show cars.. makes me feel like a 4 4 yr old in a candy store

:drool:

martin100 12-02-2005 05:13 PM

@ sledgeham
It has already gone down against TG since it exists... TG is the MUCH better show with much higher budget and the much better presenters.

Erez 12-02-2005 05:22 PM

Re: 5th Gear's cheap shots @ Top Gear getting annoying?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Toronto
anyone else getting annoyed with these?

yes.

and i agree, and i think the early 5th gear was better then now because of it.. they should return to that format and only if they think they can do it as well with the 40Min show then they should got for it.. other wise i prefer the 20min GOOD 5th gear..

Cheeky Cockney 12-11-2005 08:48 PM

I don't think i have been paying attention but i haven't noticed anything.
Can anyone give me an example?


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