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gucom 11-09-2005 01:07 PM

i agree witho you that the front bumper is pretty busy, but other than that i think it looks amazing...and there's also a difference with the aerokit, this GT3 also has the air vent in the nose :wink: :P

|Nuno| 11-09-2005 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gucom
...and there's also a difference with the aerokit, this GT3 also has the air vent in the nose :wink: :P

Eh, details... :P


By the way, acording to EVO, the GT3 will have 430 hp or more.

mv 11-09-2005 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gucom
...and there's also a difference with the aerokit, this GT3 also has the air vent in the nose :wink: :P

Eh, details... :P


By the way, acording to EVO, the GT3 will have 430 hp or more.

That's what you call wishful thinking. 8) But it will be a significant power bump, that's for sure.

|Nuno| 11-09-2005 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gucom
...and there's also a difference with the aerokit, this GT3 also has the air vent in the nose :wink: :P

Eh, details... :P


By the way, acording to EVO, the GT3 will have 430 hp or more.

That's what you call wishful thinking. 8) But it will be a significant power bump, that's for sure.

Yeah, I guess so, unless they modify the 964-based engine to 3.8 litres. But even then... :bah:

I say this because I doubt they'll use the current 3.8 M97 unit, seeing as it's not a true dry sump.

Schwalbe 11-09-2005 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by |Nuno|

So... that's it...? :? Because that's just a 997 with that awful aerokit. :( The front is especially bad - waaay too busy. I'm sure it's gonna be a beast, but aesthetically it's a huge disapointment (for me anyway). So yeah, I hope that's not the final version.

If a Ferrari fan like you doesn't like the new Porsche 997 GT3 look, that confirms that Porsche AG succeeded on aesthetic point of view IMO. Mission accomplished ! :wink:

|Nuno| 11-09-2005 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by |Nuno|

So... that's it...? :? Because that's just a 997 with that awful aerokit. :( The front is especially bad - waaay too busy. I'm sure it's gonna be a beast, but aesthetically it's a huge disapointment (for me anyway). So yeah, I hope that's not the final version.

If a Ferrari fan like you doesn't like the new Porsche 997 GT3 look, that confirms that Porsche AG succeeded on aesthetic point of view IMO. Mission accomplished ! :wink:

lol, that'd be a good theory...if I weren't a Porsche fan as well. :P :wink:

yg60m 11-09-2005 04:03 PM

I find it nice but the front is a bit too busy indeed :wink: It seems like a tuner's car not coming straight from Stuttgart.

gucom 11-09-2005 04:08 PM

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I do like the look of the new GT3, but the fron is a bit busy. That's why in the 996 series I prefered the look of the Carrera and the GT3 to the Turbo and the GT2. They were slim and nice in that way, not huge and in your face.

i understand what you mean, and at first i felt the same about it, but now, with both the 996 and the 997, i feel the visual weight is a bit too much on the rear side (if u understand what i mean), especially with these wider hips (looking amazingly sexy in this GT3 pic :D ). so therefore, i dont mind the front being a bit heavier visually...only downside is, with this aeropack/GT3 front bumper, real-world usability is drastically reduced :(

Schwalbe 11-11-2005 02:16 AM

New Panamera PS pix from AMS. :D

According to AMS the Porsche Panamera will hit the roads in 2009.

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/s...3/pan1_450.jpg

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/s...3/pan2_450.jpg

RAMMIUS 11-11-2005 05:28 AM

911 Gt 3RS press release :



Stuttgart. Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, Stuttgart, presents a new generation of 911 versions with rear wheel drive. The market launch of the new 911 GT3 RS in Europe takes place on April 11, 2006.

The sporty 911 Carrera will have a supremely fit and athletic brother with even greater speed and power when Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, Stuttgart, launches the new 911 GT3RS in April 2006. With 298 kW (405 hp), the new 911 GT3RS delivers 24 hp more than its predecessor. What’s more, it delivers 61 hp more than the Carrera with the same displacement. The new GT3RS has a top speed of 301 km/h. The specific output of 78.9 kW makes the 3.8-litre boxer engine one of the most powerful naturally aspirated engines in its class worldwide. The GT3RS takes just 14,8 seconds to accelerate from 0 to 200 km/h and then brake immediately back down to 0 km/h.

The engineers at the Porsche development centre in Weissach have completely redesigned the new GT3RS. They focussed their efforts on excellent handling, a high standard of active safety and a lightweight design, the ultimate goal being, of course, a supremely sporty drive.

The new 911 GT3RS therefore revs up to 450 rpm more than the previous model, which greatly enhances the car’s sprinting ability. The GT3 accelerates from a standing start to 100 km/h in 4.3 seconds. It now reaches 170 km/h in just 8,9 seconds instead of the previous 9.4 seconds. To handle this increase in performance, the transmission was fitted with transmission oil cooling and injection oil lubrication as well as undergoing some additional reinforcements.

The sports suspension of GT3, with a centre of gravity 10 millimetres lower than that of the 911 Carrera S with pasm ,same at the 997S sport chassis, was fine-tuned. The new wheels are wider and lighter and achieve higher axial and lateral acceleration values.
On the front axle, the rim width was increased from 8½ to 9 inches, with tyre dimensions of 235/40 ZR 19. The rear axle rims now measure eleven inches instead of the previous ten inches. The tyre dimensions at the rear are 315/30 ZR 19.

The engineers have made further improvements to the brake system. On the front axle, the GT3 was given high-performance 8-piston monobloc brake calipers (previously 6-piston). The PCCB brake discs at the front were increased by 30 millimetres to a diameter of 380 millimetres and fitted with Porsche-patented coolant ducts. The ABS brake system was also modified. The new system (ABS 5.9) has a faster and more sensitive control response. It is also lightweight and provides greater stability for ABS braking.

Ceramic brake discs – Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake (PCCB) are for the first time in standard equipment.
These are already fitted as standard in the 911 GT2 and are also available with the 911 Carrera S and Carrera 4S (subject to an extra charge).

The most striking visual feature of the new GT3RS is a double rear wing, which is largely responsible for the impressive directional stability at high speeds and the increased contact pressure for fast cornering. The experience gained with the GT3 Supercup model in motor sport racing was put to good use when fine-tuning the car in the aerodynamic wind tunnel. The rear wing is, of course, adjustable. The front apron was also redesigned. The GT3 thus achieves an outstanding drag coefficient of Cd=0.35 for a car in its class.

The excellent handling dynamics have been achieved by the Porsche Motorsport specialists in Weissach with the new PASM set up, which could otherwise impair the overall driving experience. All components are designed and adapted to meet even the extreme demands of racetrack driving. It therefore goes without saying that the new GT3 will only be available in a Clubsport version .
The Porsche 911 GT3RS will cost 142,112 euro in Germany (including VAT and country-specific requirements). The new GT3RS will be available at European Porsche dealerships from April next year. The GT3RS will be available in the United States from May 2006.

gucom 11-11-2005 07:32 AM

@ Schwalbe: i dont really like it yet, it looks to much like an estate for my liking...
@ rammius: thats all pretty cool, nice performance increase and all...but where does that leave the normal GT3? when's that gonna be released? :?

|Nuno| 11-11-2005 02:03 PM

^^

That Press Release is fake. It's full of mistakes...

Not to mention the 14.8 s 0-200-0 time. That one got me laughing pretty hard. :lol:

gucom 11-11-2005 03:19 PM

yeah i was wondering about several points about it already... u've got to have no life at all if you're gonna fabricate fake press releases by car manufacturers :roll:

mv 11-11-2005 04:53 PM

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Not to mention the 14.8 s 0-200-0 time. That one got me laughing pretty hard. :lol:

Yet again. Wishful thinking of an entirely new dimension. :)

nthfinity 11-15-2005 02:24 AM

a real press release i find facinating
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Porsche permitted to build new drive center in Weissach Stuttgart.


The technical town council of Weissach authorized the application for planning permission by Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, Stuttgart for a new drive center. This enables the automotive manufacturer to begin with the clearing and digging work on the site of the Weissach research and development center as early as mid-November.

The new construction is to be a joint workshop and office building in which all development activities for drive technology with engine and gearbox components as well as corresponding prototype assembly will be combined. At the same time, development work for the new sport coupé “Panamera,” which is due to be launched in 2009, will be integrated there. The building is due to be completed in its first stage of expansion by the end of 2006 and occupied at the start of 2007. The total investments for this amount to more than EUR 15 million. Following the final stage of completion, more than 500 employees will be employed in the drive center, including those who Porsche is currently recruiting or will recruit in the course of the new development of the “Panamera.”

A metallic façade with a technical look will ensure that it is not possible to look into the four-story drive center from the outside. As it will be partially built into a slope, a larger amount of digging work is necessary. For this reason, corresponding site traffic in and around Weissach can be expected over the next few months.

GO

11/11/2005
http://www.porsche.com/usa/aboutpors...-86-2005-11-11

traditionally, Weissach is Porsches' Motorsport stronghold for development, with an empahsis on driveline, and engine engineering. i think this is Porsches show to get back to no. 1 on the race track (beyond the awsome LMP2 RS Spyder) as well as making reliable and compfortable road going units. VERY cool news here i think, and going to show how well PAG is doing these days :) :wink:


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