| stradale |
03-25-2006 09:46 AM |
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Originally Posted by RC45
IS this an accuarte Cliff's Notes that I found?
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The whole story is being detailed over on ferrarichat.com
Basically the car is being commissioned by a wealthy American banker who already owns a pair of original 330p3/p4/412p as well as another significant early Ferrari and a wide assortment of other rare toys!
Its also interesting to note that the car pictured in auto express doesn’t look like the shots of the clay styling prototype that the cars owners has shared offline with a number of people........but they are correct in saying that this it is going to be a far far better looking car than the enzo
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And look at this exchange...
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Jim,
You want facts - Here are, not one but 3 FACTS – and these are FACTS, not opinion!!;
1. Ferrari have stated that the chassis of 0846 does not exist. I know your response: I quote; "Ferrari's exact words, which I disclosed YEARS AGO, were "written off". "Written off" does not mean "Ceasing to exist"." (end quote) But that's YOUR opinion! Ferrari have asked you not to claim that your car is 0846, therefore it is obvious that in their opinion "written off" means "Ceasing to exist". (and I know that you are waiting/hoping that they will change their view on this, but that is their statement at this time.)
2. I have also discussed this with Mauro Forghieri. I asked him what happened to the crashed Amon car. He states “the basic chassis was destroyed and the components used, where possible.” As he was at the factory when the wreck was returned he would know better than anyone what happened to it.
3. David Piper states that he sold you a replica chassis not an original chassis of any sort.
But apparently their memories are unreliable – (because they don’t agree with you?) - but your sources (Nino & Wayne) are 100% reliable?
We’ve had your theory - Now you give us facts; -
1. How did this chassis get out of the factory?
2. Who took it out of the factory?
3. When did they do this?
4. Have you got anyone at Ferrari who disputes that this chassis was scrapped?
5. Which scrap-yard did it go to?
6. Who took it out of the scrap-yard?
7. How did it get to Pipers?
8. How come Piper didn’t realize that he’d been tucked up with an old scrap chassis instead of the new one that he’d paid for?
Let’s have facts not supposition!
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It does seem that these are just "boys with their toys" - looks and sounds like kids (very rich and spoiled kids ;)) squabbling - not seriously wealthy mature car collectors.
I do believe the Tifosi are all primadonnas... now we might understand why Jay Leno doesn't wanna be one of them... ;) :P
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Those notes are accurate. Ferrari is not involved in this project, Jim commissioned this prototype from Pininfarina. He bought a new US spec Enzo and shipped it to Italy. This is not going to be a concept car, but a well engineered, serviceable car. It will be road legal and driveable on the road. Front overhang will be small compared to the Enzo. The idea was to make a Ferrari with sexy curvy shapes that is also aerodynamically efficient. It will be lighter than the Enzo and will have more downforce.
Jim is not a primadonna, nor is he a kid. He owns a 330P4, a 412P, a Lola T70, a Ford GT40 mkIV and the oldest surviving Ferrari, the 166 Spyder Corsa (s/n 002C). All of these cars have been registered and are used on the street, which goes to show he uses them as they were intended and even beyond that. Last summer he travelled Europe with the 330P4 and the 166. He brings his cars to events all over the world, so other people have a chance to see them. In the case of the debate about s/n 0846, the 330 P4, he is the one opposing many purist experts (primadonnas if you will). IMO he is a car enthusiast of the right kind.
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