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Originally Posted by Shinri_Shiogami
Wow RC, you didn't read my post, did you?
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I read your whole post. I am guessing a lot was lost in the translation - in typical uptight euro-fashion you took personal offense at everything - upto and including the obvious ribbing with emoticons... such as this one :arrow:
and this one :arrow:
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Originally Posted by Shinri_Shiogami
There are many 1000hp cars not just in the US, but also in Europe and Asia. But none of them are production cars. They're just tuned up 'normal' cars. Most of these cars won't survive thousands of miles on the same engine, yet this is something the Veyron is trying to achieve. This is why it has +5 years of development behind it, so that it doesn't end up a car which fails after 10k miles.
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Uhm - apparently you didn't read my post - I am well aware of the existence of tuner cars in world - I even mentioned this. And sadly you seem to belive that a tuner car is an unreliable car... well sorry to disappoint you , but there are many tuner cars running around - that are daily driven and rack up 12,000 miles or more a year.
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Originally Posted by Shinri_Shiogami
Anyway, I have this impression that it will be pointless to discuss things like this with you, because although you say it is not so, you're very blatantly biassed against american cars and refuse to think otherwise.
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If you say so - of course you must also know I am not actually a "born in the USA" person and have a large cross section of interest.. but you knew this of course.. :roll:
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Originally Posted by Shinri_Shiogami
What others have said to me, seems to be true. You don't want to hear it, but everyone is saying it. You want to relish the thought of an american car beating that made in another country, and that's ok with me. It's your impression and your preference.
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The reason I take this stance and then enjoy watching you euro-types squirm is because before I moved to the USA I was also surrounded by this anti-American car crap day in and day out - and I can attest to the fact that it is not based on fact - but simply a stereotypical bias - that if it comes form America it must be crap therefore it is crap.
However, with an open mind I have for years always seen past this euro-centric anti-US bias - and it always made me chuckle.
Sure a 1975 Buick may be a boat and crap and useless - but a 1992 Viper or a 2001 Corvette or even a 1990 Hummer or a 1975 Willys Jeep are excellent vehicles for their specific tasks - yet I have seen (even the years I did not live here) that many many people form outside the US simply stereotypically hate anything US.
As I say I find this rather funny.. and to the point you even proved it with you point for point post trying to disprove any merit in the Callaway versus bolstering the Veyron to some euro-pedestal of worship.
Yet another biased eurocrat shows up at the car-hop...
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Originally Posted by Shinri_Shiogami
But man, you do it in such an ignorant and clearly biassed way that I find it a little sad.
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No - you just have such a closed mind to the possibility that ANYTHING non-european could be good, you will do what ever you can to prove that claim. That behaviour is ignorant - because you believe your standpoint to be true.
At least I have an open enough mind to consider all comers..
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Originally Posted by Shinri_Shiogami
p.s. you do know that speed measuring equipment are not necesarily very accurate. Lasers, GPS, etc... they all get wrong measurements more often then you would care to think, and don't even mention the tacho in a car, which at high speed can be as inaccurate as 10 or 15%. Maybe the equipment they used 17 years ago was less then accurate, after all, nobody has heard a thing about the guy who bought the car back then and the speed run was not confirmed in subsequent runs.
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Typical crap - now you want to say "17 years ago measurements were so inaccurate they cannot be trusted"... yeah - so lets dismiss all records from the '30's, 40's etc - hell even Olympic athletes times should be thrown out, they weren't times to 14th decimal point... :roll: This is an example of "clutching at straws".
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Originally Posted by Shinri_Shiogami
Oh, and do note that in my previous post, it took three tries on the "official testing day" before the car made it's official speed run. You do understand that previously they had been trying this for many months prior to this 'official' test. It's not as if they just bolted on some turbos, tried three times and wham bang, thank you mam, the car broke 250mph. Don't be so ignorant :\
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Actually - in the grand scheme of things, they did just "bolt on some turbos" and wham bam thankyou mama they achieved what they did.
Callaway had 10 years of development in the turbo field, and the production Callaway Twin Turbo was already on sale and warranted as a GM car when the record was set.
What is truly unfuckingbelievably arrogant of you is the be so presumptuous as to imply that someone paraphrasing an elaborate story is showing some level of ignorance because they didn't transcribe 40 pages of minute details.
I don't know you from a bar of soap, and neither do you know me - so when the 2 of us discuss a topic on an Internet forum, and one party quotes a part of a story, or makes a contextual comment, maybe you can have some decorum and respect to at least give the person the benefit of the doubt and consider that they may know the
whole story but are paraphrasing and just providing an anecdotal sound bite for discussion purpose.