http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...d.php?t=111545
AFter much hunting I found the thread I think that was meant to be posted.. thread 111545 rather than thread 111454, which ironically seems to reference thread 111545.. (if my URL interpretation skills ar eup to snuff)
The numbers reinforce the message I guess.
Seems all the "old geezers" in the first thread actually had a legitimate concern after all - and I guess GT44 and Forza dont take into account the extra weight of 4 friends when youdo "threshold braking" moves in video games.
Sad story - but plays out more often than we would care to admit.