01-04-2007, 06:26 PM
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Has anyone viewed 1080p from the Xbox360?
I like ho weveryone ahs been sucked inot the hype that is XBox360 HD-DVD support.
There is no HDMI cable for the XBox360 that I can find... so the "upgrade" to allow 1080p support seems moot at best, down right dishonest marketing at worst.
It would seem that component inputs on the majority of TV's support 1080i max res.
So you buy the HD-DVD drive for your Xbox360 for $200, buy/rent a bunch of HD-DVD's that would in theory be 1080p movies, but only playable as 1080i on your big screen HDTV...
Not to mention the games will only be 1080i...
So it looks as if Sony blew Micro$haft right out of the water with this Blu-Ray thing
Oh - and GT4 at 1080i upscaled to display on 1080p looks pretty much the same as PGR3 at 1080i..
So it looks like Forza2 will not even be as good in the visual department as GTHD, a free demo
XBy360's feel free to chime in and stand up for the XBox
Oh - and let me know where I can find a pirate HDMI accesorie cable
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01-04-2007, 06:42 PM
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Sony fan boy
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01-04-2007, 07:21 PM
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Hey - I am just calling it like it is..
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01-04-2007, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RC45
Hey - I am just calling it like it is..
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Don't worry RC, its not your fault you buy all the good stuff
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01-04-2007, 07:53 PM
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first off I want to get this cleared out. The max most if not all Xbox360 games support is 720p correct? This is without upscaling or any of that software crap.
Second does anyone know of any 360 games that will have native 1080p resolution rather than just upscaling it?
Third its kinda off topic but is Test Drive Unlimited coming to PS3? If so When? I have looked everywhere on the "tubes" and cant find no damn info about it
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Forgot to mention I like the way RC is thinking about $ONY now.
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01-04-2007, 09:05 PM
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Meh, I don't much care. it'll still look damn good either way.
As a game machine, the PS3 is completely worthless at the moment IMO. But it seems it's blue ray player is doing pretty damn good. I just wonder if playing lots of movies will have an effect on the PS3. Playing DVD's killed my PS2.
I'd realy like to get an HDTV. But the more I read into it, the more confusing it gets. It's getting ridiculous. HDMI, DVI, HDCP, Blue ray versus HDDVD, component, "True HD" and a ton of other nonsense. LOL
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01-04-2007, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TopGearNL
Originally Posted by RC45
Hey - I am just calling it like it is..
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Don't worry RC, its not your fault you buy all the good stuff
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I just want to get the value outof the XBox360 I bought.. I mean I have em both and enjoy em both. but like the PS3 more
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01-04-2007, 10:05 PM
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Consoles suck I thought consoles = hassle free gaming
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01-04-2007, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SFDMALEX
Consoles suck I thought consoles = hassle free gaming
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Correction, PS, PS2 and PS3 = hassle free gaming..
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01-04-2007, 10:47 PM
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Re: Has anyone viewed 1080p from the Xbox360?
Originally Posted by RC45
So you buy the HD-DVD drive for your Xbox360 for $200, buy/rent a bunch of HD-DVD's that would in theory be 1080p movies, but only playable as 1080i on your big screen HDTV...
Not to mention the games will only be 1080i...
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I agree that advertising 1080i as 1080p is misleading, but there HAS to be an HDMI cable available for the XB360...Right? Anyway I think your worries that you will be stuck viewing things "only" in 1080i is unjustified. 1080i looks amazing and in reality there is not an appreciable difference between 1080i and 1080p. Progressive sounds better in theory, but the tangible benefits are not huge.
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01-04-2007, 11:40 PM
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Re: Has anyone viewed 1080p from the Xbox360?
Originally Posted by STiInYourEye
Originally Posted by RC45
So you buy the HD-DVD drive for your Xbox360 for $200, buy/rent a bunch of HD-DVD's that would in theory be 1080p movies, but only playable as 1080i on your big screen HDTV...
Not to mention the games will only be 1080i...
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I agree that advertising 1080i as 1080p is misleading, but there HAS to be an HDMI cable available for the XB360...Right? Anyway I think your worries that you will be stuck viewing things "only" in 1080i is unjustified. 1080i looks amazing and in reality there is not an appreciable difference between 1080i and 1080p. Progressive sounds better in theory, but the tangible benefits are not huge.
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Actually all the research I did has shown that Microsoft announced no HDMI cable for the XBox360 - because they say they don't think its needed.
As I understand it, an interlaced recorded source is reinterlaced to display on a progressive display. And as such I noticed that as an example, GT4 1080i when displayed on a native 1080i display seemed smoother and less prone to combing than when the 1080i source is displayed on a 1080p display.
So in short, if there exist no 1080p sources for XBox360 then I will always have combing when viewing the computer graphics at 1080p.
*shrug*
The main deal was to be able to enjoy Blu-Ray at 1080p which is flicker free and pristine this we have accomplished... I understand if I had bought a 720p/1080i TV then it would make no difference as even 1080p source would be deinterlaced to display in an interlaced fashion on the 1080i display.
And to all the PGR3 FanBoys who claim it is awesome at 1080.. it only has 720 res graphics
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01-05-2007, 02:21 AM
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Yea, but you can't view 1080p at 24 frames per second with the PS3. It's best if you give me all your gear to avoid dissapointment.
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01-05-2007, 02:26 AM
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You can get 1080p out of component in an LCD ...
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01-05-2007, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 666fast
Meh, I don't much care. it'll still look damn good either way.
As a game machine, the PS3 is completely worthless at the moment IMO. But it seems it's blue ray player is doing pretty damn good. I just wonder if playing lots of movies will have an effect on the PS3. Playing DVD's killed my PS2.
I'd realy like to get an HDTV. But the more I read into it, the more confusing it gets. It's getting ridiculous. HDMI, DVI, HDCP, Blue ray versus HDDVD, component, "True HD" and a ton of other nonsense. LOL
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I have to agree, the graphics on the 360 look beautiful on my HDTV, and that is all I really care about. That and there are a ton of good games, plus Halo 3. I'm not a sony hater, but I wonder about the reliability of the Blu-Ray players as they have never really been mainstreamed. I also worry because my friend has a PS3 and he says it gets hotter than my 360 does. Also, because Microsoft control the world, HD-DVD will win over Blu-Ray as I imagine more movies will be made in HD-DVD, its the same thing with the PSP movis, only certian ones will be made for it. Also, isnt the PS3 MP2 as the 360 is MP4 or something like that?
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01-05-2007, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by PATo355
You can get 1080p out of component in an LCD ...
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My XBox 360 received its 1080p software upgrade tonight.. but sadly HDTV component is limited to 1080i
So Microsft have dismissed every single HD TV owner out there with a HDMI.. not a wise move
Althouhg, I probably could use the D-Plug "PC" input on the HDTV, as there is an XBox360 cable with D-Plug...
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