11-20-2003, 03:34 AM
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F355 / 360 V8s, how do they sound like that?
I know it has something to do with the fact that they are "flat plane crank" V8's, however I don't understand it fully and as I am now finished school with nothing at all to do I would like to learn. does anyone know of a good site that explains this well.
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11-20-2003, 07:35 AM
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nobody knows
that's the Ferrari magic
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11-20-2003, 03:54 PM
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Small displacement high revving..
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11-23-2003, 10:32 AM
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Also , they spend time tuning the intake, then way the air goes in creates ,in part; the magic.
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12-03-2003, 01:03 PM
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u can download some video................ i had 2 that is about 360............ then u can heard the sound of the great ferrari engine
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12-03-2003, 01:46 PM
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The Lotus Esprit V8 had a flat plane crank too but it doesn't sound as good as Ferraris V8 more like a 4 cylinders, it's a technic used in competition.
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12-16-2003, 01:00 AM
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Well, I think they pay very close attention to the length and shape of the intake and exhaust manifolds; and the number of values (5 per cylinder) has some effect. In addition, the high rpms of the engines has a lot to do with it.
Also, it's Italian.
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12-25-2003, 04:21 PM
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the 5 valves is a big part of it. it's 3 intake, and 2 exhaust, with the exhaust valves having VVT which gives improved performance at high revs, hence the enormous beautiful sound
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12-25-2003, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RC45
Small displacement high revving.. 
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I wouldnt say that Ferrari's have small engines.
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12-25-2003, 09:08 PM
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the flat crank V8 produces exhaust pulses that sound like that.
of kos not having a turbo (like lotus) and having an engine that revs high with suitable cam and intake design contributes to the music
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12-25-2003, 09:39 PM
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Whats up with all the V8 talk? How will you explain the magic of ferrari V12's?
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12-25-2003, 09:50 PM
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we are talking abt the sound V8 makes ... no one comes close
the V12 .. ? nothing special compared to the rest
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12-30-2003, 01:01 PM
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it's primarily the muffler
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01-02-2004, 07:28 PM
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There is much magic in intake/exhaust tuning. If you recall during the original Miata development, thousands of hours were spend analyzing/tuning the exhaust to make it sound *just right*...it has that slightly "braaaap" sound when cold, and then warms up to a mellow but unobtrusive growl.
But I agree with RC45--small displacement, high-rev engines (esp V-8s) have a unique sound.
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01-13-2004, 05:58 AM
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Just throwing in my €0,02, I think the flatplane configuration contributes very much to the sound difference from usual crossplane garden V8.
Flatplane means you can actually rev them higher since there are no counter-balance weights involved, and in terms of engine sound you always got 2 cylinders getting sparked up at the same time (as opposed to the crossplane). Then of course the intake and muffler resonances get tuned to musical sounding frequencies I suppose. I know a link where they analyse an older Ferrari V8 and come to the conclusion that everything is very harmonic, but I suppose you need to have a lot of sound analysing experience (which I don't) to be convinced of that by only reading through it. Here's the link anyway:
http://www.ymec.com/hp/signal2/car1.htm
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