08-16-2006, 11:04 PM
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to my knowledge, Lambo was exemted last year, and I expect the same this year.
Bugatti, i believe since they import fewer then 300 cars per year are allowed to sidestep quite a few rules; but it is easier just to get exempted, i suppose....
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08-16-2006, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by r2r
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Originally Posted by RC45
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Originally Posted by r2r
When your buying a supercar you know exactly what risks you are taking, its not a family sedan or a minivan that you are going to be carrying your kids to school in!
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Do you take classes to come up with statements like this? Or does it come naturally?
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And what exactly is your point?
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My point? It's a rather silly statement.
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08-17-2006, 12:54 AM
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heh...airbags to protect dhildren and some women....someone please show me a veyron with a childseat in it
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08-17-2006, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RC45
Interesting....
So while all the world is bashing the US... hating on America... despising the low morals... yelling at the religious zealots...
You ALL need the US money to stay in business....
So now you NEED the US consumer, and as such the legislation makes it expensive to do buisness here and being that this is the biggest market buying your crap you are going to go bellyup ?
My answer.
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Ahahahahahaha.
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08-17-2006, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rave426
Let me add this. Cars arent only made to be safe in regards to drivers mistakes, but they are also made to defend against other dumb ass drunk drivers. And the likelyhood is that someone is going to want to hit you even more because they think you are a rich prick.
Since you want to be critical let me make myself clear. First of all I was responding on the your quote about why do supercars need to be as safe as normal cars (thats a generalized statment if I remember correctly).
So I guess you are telling me that automakers should assume that the buyers of supercars are some kind of undercover driving savants that dont lose control.
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If you look at a race car you will see that it is very safe indeed, because it is engineered with high speed safety in mind. But if I remember correctly we are talking about a ROAD car. This car has to be driven on the along with other ROAD car buyers. You cant put every safety measure thats in a race car on a livable road car. It would be entirly too crude.
You know what.....How about you get your little hans device and use it everyday when you are driving your car. Se how many "thats a real car and a real driver" remarks you get out of that. Well we cant use a hans device all the time so automakers have to use other equipment.
You go ahead and drive your roll caged, crumple zoneless, side impactless, hans deviced enabled, helmet while drving, supercar while drving next to Bob "The Gunner" Jones in his 20 ton Ford F-850 Ultra Cab that is swerving because he had too many bud lights.
I'll take my "too safe" Carrera GT and be happy that I know I have a better chance of survival than you.
Finally, the reason for saying that VW shouldnt have to worry about it is because i dont want to see an great automobile company have to drop hard working engineers and workers because of a damn "smart" bag. It already has a bag im sure and a new one isnt going to make any difference. Also, if Ferrari got around it already, the VW shouldnt have to deal with it either.
I really hope you dont plan on becoming and engineer 
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Listen.
I’m not against having safe supercars on the road, but to implement an extra safety features so everybody ends up being happy is what I don’t agree with. Its that simple!
Why?
Because in the end it will add more complexity and manufacturing cost that would in the end either sacrifice performance and/or quality!
F40 and some older supercars didn’t have any of these nonsense’s, and they did more then fine.
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08-17-2006, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mattk
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You don’t buy a supercar to be safe in, you buy it for performance. If you are willing to take it to speeds 3 times as fast then you have to deal with the consequences that may come up.
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So? A car manufacturer has a duty to provide safe cars for its consumers. It has to be safe enough to protect its occupants in a reasonable crash. Reasonability is determined by the appropriate stauatory authorities, who then set safety regulations etc.
If these smart airbags are not much better, then so be it. If the car is still reasonably safe, then that should be good enough for the authorities.
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Ha ha,
Some of you on here seriously sound like some of those mothers that grow their children up by not allowing them to do anything they can't supervise over.
Doesn’t the fact that the rest of Europe and the world is happy with the safety of these supercars make it safe to drive?
I mean do you want every person in the world to be happy before you can buy one?
With the way things are going and to satisfy people like yourself, they will keep adding safety features to cars like these until one day it will be a car where it will drive itself,
because it will detect that you (the person) are too stupid to drive yourself 100% safely. Maybe will all be happy by then
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08-17-2006, 06:11 AM
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F40 and some older supercars didn’t have any of these nonsense’s, and they did more then fine.
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Times were different then.
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Doesn’t the fact that the rest of Europe and the world is happy with the safety of these supercars make it safe to drive?
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Hence, exemptions.
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08-17-2006, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by nthfinity
to my knowledge, Lambo was exemted last year, and I expect the same this year.
Bugatti, i believe since they import fewer then 300 cars per year are allowed to sidestep quite a few rules; but it is easier just to get exempted, i suppose....
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I think Ferrari was exemted not Lamborghini, there are always different rules apply to them.
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08-18-2006, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Mattk
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F40 and some older supercars didn’t have any of these nonsense’s, and they did more then fine.
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Times were different then.
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Times were better then
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09-01-2006, 10:50 AM
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Re: US laws threatening to put Bugatti out of business
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Originally Posted by vexor
America please stop it with these "overkill" car safety laws.
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