04-06-2007, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir_GT
I just wanted to say that I'll be $5 this isn't going to be a new car. Just a facelifted Z4 with a folding hard-top.
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04-06-2007, 06:12 PM
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^^ +2!
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04-13-2007, 02:28 PM
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04-13-2007, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TopGearNL
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Yeah, I don't know if it will be an facelifted Z4 because the Z4 already had it's facelift last year. Usually BMW models only have a 7 year life cycle. With the facelift coming after the 4th year.
Although Z said that might be changing with the Life Cycle Impulse Updates.
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04-13-2007, 02:34 PM
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Yes, I came across those interior shots last week, very interesanting indeed.
Looking at the shape of the back windows/roof line, I think the final product will be something in the shape of the FX45, which is one of the best looking "SUVīs" out there..I really think this car will look good..despite the ugly facelift that BMW hasdone to the X5 I think I'll like this one..
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04-13-2007, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ae86_16v
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Originally Posted by TopGearNL
^^ +2!
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Yeah, I don't know if it will be an facelifted Z4 because the Z4 already had it's facelift last year. Usually BMW models only have a 7 year life cycle. With the facelift coming after the 4th year.
Although Z said that might be changing with the Life Cycle Impulse Updates.
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I couldnīt think of anything else other than a Z4 facelift..it has almost the same size of the Z4 so its too small to be the Z9 or whatever it will be called BMWīs replacement for the Z8..and it doesnt makes sense to make a smaller roadster or another one in the same size of the Z4.. :bah:
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04-13-2007, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bernardo
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Originally Posted by ae86_16v
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Originally Posted by TopGearNL
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Yeah, I don't know if it will be an facelifted Z4 because the Z4 already had it's facelift last year. Usually BMW models only have a 7 year life cycle. With the facelift coming after the 4th year.
Although Z said that might be changing with the Life Cycle Impulse Updates.
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I couldnīt think of anything else other than a Z4 facelift..it has almost the same size of the Z4 so its too small to be the Z9 or whatever it will be called BMWīs replacement for the Z8..and it doesnt makes sence to make a smaller roadster or another one in the same size of the Z4.. :bah:
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Yeah I know. Doesn't make a lot of sense. I remember reading about a Z2 though. To compete with the Miata and such. Don't know how much would that factor though.
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04-13-2007, 03:43 PM
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my shop foreman said he had no clue about those spy shots as everything he has heard has pointed away from another roadster.
I don't see BMW going after the Miata market. The hairdresser market doesn't really fit into BMW's image. Besides, we've got the 1er supposedly hitting showrooms sometime this year. there are already a few mules roaming around California apparently.
1, 3, 5, 6, 7, X5 X3 and Z4 are the current line up. With X6 entering production and rumors of 8er revival floating around (with no real market segment for it, i think it'll be a one time thing like the E31) I really think BMW is full as far as models go.
I figure the 3,5, and 7 are permanent fixtures in their line up, 3 being their bread and butter and 7 being the flagship, they need a middle ground and the 5 has paid off so well in that sense. X5/3 isn't looking to be too good. The E70 i don't think is selling as well as BMW hoped it would, and i have trouble seeing the X3 sticking around for another lifecycle. The 6 is the perfect middle ground if you're a single guy or you and your wife don't have kids and don't need 4 doors but want the creature features of the 5er, and it's been doing pretty well too, so that's in for at least one more lifecycle.
the 1 has yet to be seen and the fate of the roadster project is in limbo as far as i can tell with all the rumors circling around. 2011 SHOULD be the last year for the E85 chassis, with the E86 chassis holding out to 2013 (possibly, that one might go with the E85)
it's going to get exciting around this time next year because the F01 is slated for an 09 MY and the 7's typically debut in the fall. Our German members should hang out in Dingolfing with telefoto lenses pretty soon to watch for the pre-production cars to roll out of the factory.
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04-13-2007, 04:20 PM
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^ No surprise that E70 isn't selling that well in the current environment of escalating fuel prices.
With that said, it is a much improved over the original E53 before it.
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04-13-2007, 05:17 PM
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There are rumours of a new sportscar convertible/coupe with the V10 engine of the M5/M6.
Maybe thats it?
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04-13-2007, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TopGearNL
There are rumours of a new sportscar convertible/coupe with the V10 engine of the M5/M6.
Maybe thats it?
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where are these rumors coming from?
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04-17-2007, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ZfrkS62
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Originally Posted by TopGearNL
There are rumours of a new sportscar convertible/coupe with the V10 engine of the M5/M6.
Maybe thats it?
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where are these rumors coming from?
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I really hope that isn't true.They should use a different engine If they are making an SL65 rival..maybe improve this V10 or use a new V12, i wasn't really happy when they launched the M6 with the same engine as the M5..i was hoping the M6 to be a bit faster than the M5...in the 3.6 - 4.0s to 62 range.
And def. a new engine for the 8er revival!!
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04-17-2007, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ZfrkS62
I don't see BMW going after the Miata market. The hairdresser market doesn't really fit into BMW's image.
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As much as BMW doesnt want to look like that type of car, there are many hair dresser types who drive BMW's.
With the 3-series convertible now a hard top, I'm sure the face lifted Z4 will also get a new top.
Damn that X6 camo is still absolutely ridiculous.
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04-18-2007, 03:48 PM
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04-18-2007, 04:24 PM
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That camo doesn't make much sense now, but....
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