01-11-2007, 01:18 AM
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Things just dont change do they? oh well.....
Ill go play in my sandbox.
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01-11-2007, 01:39 AM
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I still maintain JC is a good driver. From what I have seen him do on the shows, I think he is a lot better than me.
Comparing him to a racing driver is doing disservice to the latter. But I still maintain he is going to better than most people you see driving on the road today
Here's how I see it froma skill standpoint:
Average road driver < Journos/enthusiasts < Track day fiends <<< Club Race drivers <<<<<< Professional race drivers <<< Champcar/GP2/DTM/BTCC/Nascar, Le Mans et al <<< F1/WRC/Moto GP <<< Kimi, A_lonso, Loeb, Rossi <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Michael Schumacher = God
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01-11-2007, 01:46 AM
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He is a good driver. But he does not have what it takes to go around the track fast, that is concentration and confidence, or sheer talent (which is a must, all F1 drivers were superstars from the first time they sat in a kart or whatever).
Race car drivers is a whole different breed. Hence they are called race car drivers.
JC is a good driver. Like my dad is a very good driver, but he cant go fast around the track, cause his brain just seems wired differently.
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01-11-2007, 01:47 AM
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^ I agree totally
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01-11-2007, 09:52 AM
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Ladies and gentlemen.
Please refer to the new Clarkson DVD "The good, the bad, andtheugly."
Atthe end, it not only show's JC drifting a Ford GT, it then shows him drifiting a GTX1. If ford are precious about a car, it's this one. Unless he stole it.
Mind you, he did big up the following Ford products.
GTX1
GT
Roush Mustang (Slated GT500)
Range Rover Supercharged
Jaguar XK
It's great DVD, the septics should give ita watch, you might find it funny, but more likely, highly offensive as an Ariel Atom kicks the ass of a SRT10.
Lots oflove,
D
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01-11-2007, 09:52 AM
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uhh, well Im sure SOME of the shots were of stunt drivers........and I know he isnt the worlds best driver.
But all of you people bashing JC would do well to watch his nurburgring attempt with the Jaguar oil burner!!! I mean what he did is pretty impressive considering he'd never been to the 'Ring before, even considering Sabine was coaching him.....and he was in a big sedan........with other traffic. Sure, if you actually watch the vid it wasnt a "true" full lap....but for crying otu loud he still did a good job of driving around that beast of a track........
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01-11-2007, 09:53 AM
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Bravo, well said.
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01-11-2007, 09:57 AM
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simply put.......you cant pull that sort of time around the Nurburgring in a big Jaguar luxury sedan and be a bad driver. Sure, he's no F-1 driver.......but I would bet good money that 90% of you people bashing him couldnt post that sort of time around the 'Ring given the same car and the same amount of time having never driven the track before...............
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01-11-2007, 10:02 AM
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hehe - this is entertaining
Seems JC has a fan club
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01-11-2007, 10:05 AM
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Whatever JC's driving talents, even if he only passed his test yesterday, he still had the best job in the world.. And, haircut, wrinkly skin, and fashion sense aside, I'd trade places with him for a day whenever he fancies.
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01-11-2007, 08:55 PM
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But I still maintain he is going to better than most people you see driving on the road today
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A chimp is better then most people you see driving on the road today.
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01-11-2007, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pitfield
Ladies and gentlemen.
Please refer to the new Clarkson DVD "The good, the bad, andtheugly."
Atthe end, it not only show's JC drifting a Ford GT, it then shows him drifiting a GTX1. If ford are precious about a car, it's this one. Unless he stole it.
Mind you, he did big up the following Ford products.
GTX1
GT
Roush Mustang (Slated GT500)
Range Rover Supercharged
Jaguar XK
It's great DVD, the septics should give ita watch, you might find it funny, but more likely, highly offensive as an Ariel Atom kicks the ass of a SRT10.
Lots oflove,
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there is a reason why many of the cuts feel very post-production mind you
and yes, monkeys are better then most of the driving population LOL
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01-20-2007, 08:38 PM
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From what I see of Top Gear, Clarkson does most, if not all of the driving. How else is he going to review the cars? Sure, some post-production shots will require pro drivers to do the work, but that is attendant to the reviews.
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01-20-2007, 09:09 PM
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to be honest if i drove like him and got paid the money he does..........i coudlnt give a shit
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01-21-2007, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by gis
to be honest if i drove like him and got paid the money he does..........i coudlnt give a shit
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Pretty much sums it up -- because unlike a race driver he doesn't need to improve his driving 1 iota to keep raking in the money
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