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05-03-2010, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by RC45
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You're right, it is due to the flat plane crank. If anyone can recall the Lotus Esprit V8; it suffered the same plight, only it sounded even worse  .
Go to 2:55 of this vid for confirmation:
vs.:
I actually saw one with this same colour scheme today  .
...and then, there is this sound:
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05-03-2010, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 5vz-fe
The new RUF RGT-8 is using a flat plane crank too, let's see if they screw it up like Ferrari did  |
I believe Ruf did this so their V8 would not sound like an American V8 bit rather like an angry flat-6... I really hope they are able to pull it off 
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05-06-2010, 12:38 AM
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Ferrari sounds like 4 cylinders ?? WTF? I don't think so, The 430 sounds so good, best sounding V8 IMO.......Ferrari sounds like 4 hahaha
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05-06-2010, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by enzoferrari
Ferrari sounds like 4 cylinders ?? WTF? I don't think so, The 430 sounds so good, best sounding V8 IMO.......Ferrari sounds like 4 hahaha
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Not having grown up around european 4 cylinders, you dont know what they sound like - because if you did, you would instantly recognize the crappy sound of a 4 cyl fiat or lancia or alfa or VW even... and the F-Car V8's are really firing like twin 4 cylinders the way the crank is laid out 
YOU seem to think that V8's should sound like Ferrari V8's - that doens't mean they dont sound like 4's
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05-06-2010, 10:18 AM
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You don't have to grow up around crappy 4cyls to know how they sound like, there are crappy 4 cyls everywhere specially nowadays and I know they sound horrible, but I cant agree with you, because there is a big difference.
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05-06-2010, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by enzoferrari
You don't have to grow up around crappy 4cyls to know how they sound like, there are crappy 4 cyls everywhere specially nowadays and I know they sound horrible, but I cant agree with you, because there is a big difference.
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There is no difference between a crappy "tuned" fiat 4cyl and a crappy sounding anemic F-Car V8 - they sound the same.
Really they do, just ask people who have heard both
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05-06-2010, 10:26 PM
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Well, Ill buy any 4cylr car that sounds like an F430 any day Ill pay cash.
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05-06-2010, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by enzoferrari
Well, Ill buy any 4cylr car that sounds like an F430 any day Ill pay cash. |
Still doesnt mean the F430 sounds nice, it is a grating anemic crass noise.
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05-07-2010, 12:00 AM
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Which version of Ferrari's V8 do you think sounds better:
with conventional 90° throw crank
or
with 180° 'flat plane' crank
Below is a sample of the last of the great sounding Ferraris (F50 with tubi exhaust - F355 isn't bad either ):
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05-07-2010, 12:21 AM
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Whoops  , the video descriptions should be the other way aorund, of course (i.e. the 360 uses the flat plane crank...).
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05-07-2010, 02:47 AM
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The 8C is fantastic sounding.. not so much the 360
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05-07-2010, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by tforth
Which version of Ferrari's V8 do you think sounds better:
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red ferrari idling 
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05-07-2010, 02:20 PM
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speaking of V8s that sound like 4 cylinder engines, have u guys heard the X6/X5 M cars?...
apparently they don't use flat cranks like ferraris...at first i thought it had to do with placing the turbos and exhaust manifolds between the cylinder banks, but then i listened to the xdrive50i (which has the same layout) and it sounds just like a normal V8 (muscle car sounding) , but why the 4 cylinder sound for the M cars?
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05-07-2010, 08:03 PM
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What is the exhaust/muffler layout? They could have a cross pipe that is sized/position to have a cancelling effect on the opposite exhaust pulse.
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05-08-2010, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by RC45
The 8C is fantastic sounding.. not so much the 360 |
Yes, I agree that the Maser/Alfa 90° crank versions of the Ferrari V8 sound way better as well. Although tubi equipped 180° Ferrari V8s would do 'in a pinch' .
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