11-23-2004, 08:40 PM
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More fridge info :
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...t=25855&page=1
Water chilling: Now we are getting out of the basics, and more into the advanced usage of a watercooling system. Chilling is to make your water cooler than its surroundings. This is usually done with a phase change unit, such as a fridge, air conditioner, or dehumidifyer. DO NOT USE A MINIFRIDGE! THIS IS ALWAYS THE FIRST QUESTION EVERYONE ASKS! It will not hold up to the load. An air conditioner over 5000 BTU will usually cut it, and keep your water nice and cool. A 40 pint dehumidifier should also work.To get this to chill your water, you should gut it, and put the cooling coils from the unit in your reservoir, or, build a new reservoir. This will probably require you to build an out-of-case place for your stuff. Now: That's the easy part. Now, you need to condensation proof your motherboard. You need hose insulators, and something to insulate your waterblock. While chilling, the water may come to a lower temperature than 0 degrees Celcius. For those of you who don't know, that is frozen water. So, we need to add something with a lower freezing point, such as our good friend alcohol, or antifreeze. However, antifreeze has TERRIBLE cooling capacities, so alcohol/water or just plain windshield wiper fluid is what you should probably go for.
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11-23-2004, 08:51 PM
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Excellent thats the way to go.....but building a box will be more of a pain...but maybe the only solution....I will get all the measurements tomorrow for you.....thanks for all the ideas so far...
I am off to bed now to dream of my water chiller.
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11-24-2004, 12:18 AM
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Hahaha , Jabba became mad with this competition !!!
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11-24-2004, 11:51 AM
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He went completely mad...LOL...
Man overclocking is a bad habit...once you get into it...you can't stop...and it is fucking time consuming...
I haven't been able to get below 3m 29s...
Hey how come I'm not on the ranks...I should be number 6!!!! :x
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11-24-2004, 12:08 PM
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Not anymore ....who's the biiiiiaaaaaach now???!!!!
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11-24-2004, 08:10 PM
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11-25-2004, 01:04 AM
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list updated
BTW 3:21
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11-25-2004, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by brembo
if you fill the area between the inner and the outer parts of the box with foam or simular insulating material it would work great IMO.......
I also see you have been working hard getting all bloody and shit, sharp those edges......... .....you can truly say you made it with blood sweat and tears........maybe not the tears but it need to be in the sentence........
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Yep some good ideas there for project two indeed.
The box does have quite a bit of insulation in the walls already...it is designed to keep food cold for several hours and seems to use polyestaring (not sure if that is a UK name) and foam. It also has a snap air tight lid and wasn't cheap IMO at £19.99 so I hope its gonna be good.
I am not sure about the amount of water that would be the most effective....as a smaller amount of water would be turned over quicker over the hot CPU so therefore there is less time for it to be cooled before being sent back there again. A larger amount of water might be able to be kept cooler as it isn't circulated as much.
My recent tests of 1 Litre and 5 Litre reservoirs with normal water cooling didn't seem to make any difference...so maybe it doesn't really matter how much you use in the end.
I am trying to aim for zero temps or a little over...as below zero takes us into condensation issues that destroyed my last CPU...despite being well insulated.
Hopefully 28 degrees in and - 20 going out might kinda work...no idea if that would mean that I would end up with 8 degrees and if so that would be almost perfect.
Well I guess we will soon find out one way or another.
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11-25-2004, 08:01 AM
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Well it was the people that built my computer the first time that fucked up the insulation that killed the CPU...
I am sure we would have / will make a much better job of it this time.
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11-25-2004, 11:40 AM
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11-25-2004, 11:51 AM
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holy shyt ^^^ .......
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11-25-2004, 01:31 PM
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Farging awesome..
I love the "bloodied knuckles" candid shots thrown in for good measure. people never believe me when I tell em computers can hurt you.. hehe.
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11-25-2004, 01:35 PM
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You want to see what my hands look like after working with one of those crappy PC cases with all the razor sharpe pieces in them.
Anyone would think I just just murdered someone or something.
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11-26-2004, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ikon2003
4:44 - 1 yr + old laptop, nothing special done to it performance wise.
i have the screen image, but don't know how to post it (avid jabbas reader; can't say the same about posting.)
but here's where the really interesting stuff is....
http://www.tomshardware.com/images/t...eo_11_5ghz.zip
any guesses how fast that would do it in?
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a bit late for a reply, but ikon how did you find that video? it's quite the gem for this thread. liquid nitrogen is the next logical step... right jabba?
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