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SFDMALEX · 06-27-2005, 12:44 PM

Little cocky bastard. The funny thing is that Schumi probably will win again. There is half a season to go and only he's only two and a half victories away from him.

antonioledesma · 06-27-2005, 12:53 PM

[yoda]overconfident he is and loose will he. Now most common in young jedis problem[yoda]

when young drivers start saying those things they would be better go back to their own roots, to cool down and save those stupid comments.
there's too much time left :roll:

ZfrkS62 · 06-27-2005, 01:09 PM

"Fisi, Montoya and me all retired in Canada and we did a big favour to the others," he added.

Arrogant little prick. Let Alonso's tumble off the top begin

He's good, but he has a thing or two to learn about Murphy's Law

5vz-fe · 06-28-2005, 12:15 AM

To Quote Montoya on this "Faacking....Facking Idiot!!" I guess he is presuming that Ferrari will sit on their hands and don't give a fight back. The down on performance only pushes Ferrari to work harder in finding a solution.

5vz-fe · 06-28-2005, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by Ronin005

Originally Posted by 5vz-fe

To Quote Montoya on this "Faacking....Facking Idiot!!" I guess he is presuming that Ferrari will sit on their hands and don't give a fight back. The down on performance only pushes Ferrari to work harder in finding a solution.

well lets hope so, cause not to long ago Ferrari did say that they might stop development on the 2005 and start on the 2006 car for next year. but since they are closer to both championships now, lets hope they push forth and give it thier all.

I just hope Bridgestone can provide better qualifying performance. And maybe more on-track overtaking on Schumi's part. Schumi can pull fast in and out laps, but he is lacking some overtaking these recent years. This I blame the change in point system (making crashing out a much bigger penalty)

SFDMALEX · 06-28-2005, 10:05 AM

/\/\/\LAckinig in grip because of shitty tires.

mindgam3 · 06-28-2005, 03:30 PM

I highly doubt that ferrari's lack in performance is purely down to the tyres.

The F2005 was never finished properly as they had to bring it in early because of the lack of performance of the 2004. They were mainly waiting for the gearbox to be finished and as we've seen, this has been a pain in the arse for ferrari every race since they've introduced it for at least one of their cars

5vz-fe · 06-28-2005, 04:14 PM

Innovative casing features two layers. Inner one is titanium casting, thinner but less stiff than last year's. New, outer carbon fibre layer adds lost stiffness, but has led to overheating issues, as carbon fibre is poor heat conductor

http://www.formula1.com/insight/tech...2005/3/99.html

The gearbox is pain in the ass, but when it is performing, it is fast and light, so that has nothing to do with the F2005's performance, as for the engine, if u look at the trap speed in each race, they are amoung the top. So it couldn't be the engine. Handling u can't tell coz it is influence by tires.......

5vz-fe · 06-28-2005, 05:11 PM

I am glad that Michelin decided to do this. That's the kinda money u can't spare to make the fans feel that they did all they could and salvage their brand name. (especailly in a big market like the US)

mindgam3 · 06-29-2005, 02:02 PM

The FIA's verdict for the michelin teams:

* guilty of failing to ensure that they were in possession of suitable tyres for the 2005 US Grand Prix; but with strong, mitigating circumstances;

* guilty of wrongfully refusing to allow their cars to start the race, having regard to their right to use the pit lane on each lap;

* not guilty of refusing to race subject to a speed restriction, having regard to the absence of any detailed plan for this;

* not guilty of combining to make a demonstration for the reason that they had hoped to race until the last minute;

* not guilty of failing to inform the Stewards of their intention not to start (Article 131) for the same reason.

What utter complete bullshit.

Originally Posted by ITV-F1

Six of the seven Michelin teams found guilty of bringing Formula 1 into disrepute at Wednesday's FIA World Motor Sport Council hearing are to appeal against the verdict.

The manufacturer-backed teams McLaren, Williams, Renault, Toyota, Sauber and BAR all claim they were innocent parties in the US Grand Prix fiasco where they withdrew from the race instead of competing on tyres Michelin warned were unsafe to use.

According to a joint statement, the six teams, which does not include Red Bull, claimed they were "very disappointed" in the WMSC's decision after the hearing in Paris.

After today's hearing, the FIA announced that no punishment would be decided upon until a further meeting on September 14, but the teams feel there are no grounds for penalties.

"The teams explained to the World Motor Sport Council that, in the light of the clear and written advice from Michelin that it was unsafe to race at Indianapolis on the tyres supplied by that company, the teams had no choice but to decline to race," the statement read.

"Any other decision would have been irresponsible."

The teams were found guilty on two counts - failing to ensure they were in possession of suitable tyres and wrongfully refusing to allow their cars to start the race.

They argued that they had asked Michelin to provide the correct tyres and that the French company had made a mistake.

"The teams point out that they reasonably relied on Michelin, an approved FIA tyre supplier and a highly reputable manufacturer of tyres worldwide, to provide suitable tyres for that race," they said.

"As Michelin have already acknowledged, they were responsible for the supply of unsuitable tyres for the Indianapolis circuit.

"The FIA's decision accepts that there were "strong mitigating circumstances" for the teams.

"In truth, those circumstances provided a complete answer to the charge, given that the teams cannot be held responsible for what occurred."

The six teams also made the case that, given they did not have safe tyres to use, the only safe course of action was to elect not to take part in the US GP.

"The charges suggested only one means by which the teams could safely have raced (the use of a speed restriction)," explained the statement.

"On that charge, the teams were found not guilty.

"The teams cannot understand how they can be found guilty by reference to another proposed solution, which was not part of the charges brought against them, which was not suggested by the FIA at Indianapolis, which was considered unsafe and which, in any event, would not have achieved a satisfactory race for the fans."

loliea · 06-29-2005, 04:12 PM

The fact that the FIA wants to delay the verdict until September is a good sign that the Mosley and Co are afraid of the F1 teams that could boycott the European GPs of this summer...

Is there anything in the F1 regulation that would prevent the teams to do a demonstration on Sunday (something like having special stickers on the car to replace the tobacco that are illegal in France)?

Max Power · 06-29-2005, 08:04 PM

what do u mean?...'support Freedom Fries'?

ZfrkS62 · 06-29-2005, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by loliea

The fact that the FIA wants to delay the verdict until September is a good sign that the Mosley and Co are afraid of the F1 teams that could boycott the European GPs of this summer...

Is there anything in the F1 regulation that would prevent the teams to do a demonstration on Sunday (something like having special stickers on the car to replace the tobacco that are illegal in France)?

Take a look at the cars for the Montreal race. None of them had their tobacco sponsors on them. McLaren had the names of their drivers on the side pods and wings in place of the West graphic.

BAR had a different symbol as well in place of the Lucky Strike bulls eye

Ferrari had the red barcodes in place of the Marlboro trangle

Not sure what Renault did with the Mild 7 logos.

Jordan blacked out the Benson-Hedges on the wings, and replaced it with something else.

loliea · 06-30-2005, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by ZfrkS62

Take a look at the cars for the Montreal race. None of them had their tobacco sponsors on them. McLaren had the names of their drivers on the side pods and wings in place of the West graphic.

BAR had a different symbol as well in place of the Lucky Strike bulls eye

Ferrari had the red barcodes in place of the Marlboro trangle

Not sure what Renault did with the Mild 7 logos.

Jordan blacked out the Benson-Hedges on the wings, and replaced it with something else.

That's what I am saying, that leave some space for a message...

SFDMALEX · 06-30-2005, 04:27 PM

/\/\/\What messege? "Michelin get your act together?" Why all this hate for FIA after the US GP? Before everything was good, now fuck the FIA.......