F1 News & Rumours

[loliea]

Yes something like that, but with more nuance...

[5vz-fe]

By Spa............it is possible, but very arrogant!!! :fist: That's almost like saying Mclaren and Ferrari is good for nothing the next 6 races. I think he need to book his plastic surgeon again to readjust his high sticking nose.

[SFDMALEX]

If Ferrari dont get their act together Ill be going for Kimi and I hope he makes Alonso look real bad, I never liked him to be honest. First he's a goody good boy and now he speaks like he's the next Schumi or some shit....

[5vz-fe]

I dont know if he can be the next schumi, but he's definitely the next Montoya.

[Toronto]

Originally Posted by Ronin005 'Quit Max! Or I will sell Minardi' http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=91702 sell the damn team, and get the fuck out of F1. we dont need little nit picking cock sucking bitch's in F1. let someone come into F1 that wont cry about every little damn thing.

LOL, go ahead sell it, lets see who cares, they minardi fan club of america has 40 fans , 40!!!!

[5vz-fe]

^^hahaha, I don't think anyone cares......that guy gotten stupid over the years.

[Toronto]

well they have 40-45, they said somthing about it @ indy, all of them came out.
and I think that as the club of the americas, so I don't know how many of then where from the USA

[5vz-fe]

Originally Posted by Ronin005 Originally Posted by 5vz-fe ^^hahaha, I don't think anyone cares......that guy gotten stupid over the years. who, specifically??

Sorry Ronin, I don't mean you of course,....I mean Stoddart. It just that your msg suddenly jump in front of mine...so the ^^ seems to apply to you LOL!!

[5vz-fe]

BMW already start testing their V8 engine for 2006 Season

Williams started a three-day test at Jerez with Nico Rosberg and Antonio Pizzonia.

The Grove-based team tested the new BMW 2.4-litre engine in the FW27B chassis driven by Antonio Pizzonia. The Brazilian completed eight laps in the FW27B before switching over to a V10-equipped FW27 in the afternoon.

Nico Rosberg covered a total of 40 laps until a stomach problem forced him out of the test.

Tim Newton, Test Team Manager
"Nico spent the majority of today’s test investigating the issues we are trying to resolve on the current chassis. He also completed some systems checks and set-up development work. Antonio drove the FW27B this morning, in which we are running the new BMW V8 engine for the first time, but returned to the FW27A chassis in the afternoon when Rosberg was forced to withdraw from the test with stomach problems. Antonio Pizzonia will be joined by Nick Heidfeld for the second day of the test.”

Source: http://f1.racing-live.com/en/headlin...13194614.shtml

[|Nuno|]

Speaking of V8's:

- From today at Jerez:

1::Ralf Schumacher (Toyota) 1.17.633 (57laps)
2::Jenson Button (Bar) 1.17.733 (77l)
3::Franck Montagny 1.17.765 (69l)
4::Felipe Massa (Sauber) 1.18.000 (65l)
5::Giancarlo Fisichella (Renault) 1.18.069 (75l)
6::Anthony Davidson (Bar) 1.18.428 (63l)
7::Vitantonio Liuzzi (Red Bull Racing) 1.18.449 (82l)
8::Juan Pablo Montoya 1.18.584 (26l)
9::Alex Wurz (Mclaren) 1.18.712 (89l)
10::Ricardo Zonta (Toyota) 1.18.759 (42l)
11::Christian Klien (Red Bull Racing) 1.19.010 (81l)
12::Niko Rosberg (Williams) 1.19.510 (46l)
13::Olivier Panis (Toyota) 1.22.422 (22l)____________ V8
14::Antonio Pizzonia (Williams) 1.30.663 (8l)_________ V8


"Both Toyota and BMW endured a difficult first day of testing with their new V8 engines at the Jerez circuit in Spain.

It was the first time the new 2.4-litre units from the Japanese and German carmakers were tested on track, with Olivier Panis doing the driving for Toyota while Antonio Pizzonia drove the BMW-powered Williams car.

Both men, however, were hit by problems early on, with Panis managing just 22 laps before suffering a pressure loss. The Frenchman was forced to abandon work before the lunch break.

"It is just so different," Panis told Autosport-Atlas at the end of the day. "You just expect more power to come after a while. First and second [gears] it is okay but after that there is no more, it is so different."

Panis set a best time of 1:22.422 with the Toyota, nearly three seconds off the pace of the closest of the rivals running with the V10 engines.

The team, however, were pleased with their initial progress.

"This is first time we have run the car in a test," said Toyota technical director Mike Gascoyne. "We've not even shaken it down, and so far it is good.

"The vibration is a lot less than what we have expected. We had more vibration problems on the test bench than here and so far it is running without problem. We will have a V8 car in every test from now and we will have to see how the progress is.

"At the moment we installed the engine in this year's car with a spacer between the engine and gearbox, so once it is the new car the installation will be completely different. This is just to get a general idea of the problem."

The Williams team had a more frustrating day, however.

After having finished working at 2am on the previous night to fit the engine to the current car, the team saw Pizzonia cover just four laps before he succumbed to problems with the BMW unit.

Pizzonia then covered a few more laps at the wheel of the car fitted with the V10 engine, replacing teammate Nico Rosberg after the Finn felt unwell.

Pizzonia finished over eight seconds behind Panis."
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Ferrari already started to test the V8 in the bench too, and track tests with an hybrid car and the new V8 (which is entirely new, not just a V10 with less 2 cilinders) should start very soon.
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And regarding Renault, here's something interesting:

Since they run a 72 degrees V10 as oposed to all the other teams which use 90, they will will have problems to debut the V8 in a hybrid car.
So, they think to develop it on the test bench, then they will debut the engine in January in the car they will use in 2006. This means that they will have to simulate the effects the vibrations have on the chassis at the factory (in the case they decide not to build a hybrid) .

This may cost them valuable track data, since they'll be around 5 to 8 months behind in terms of track development. We'll see how much (or not) this will affect them.

[Mers]

I don't understand, all teams have to have V8's? Why? (sorry if i'm a little oblivious, but it's a curiosity...)

[ZfrkS62]

Originally Posted by Mers I don't understand, all teams have to have V8's? Why? (sorry if i'm a little oblivious, but it's a curiosity...)

because apparently the format is switching for next year or 07 i guess.

[|Nuno|]

^^

Next year the rules dictate that you must have either:

- A 2.4L V8;
- Or a V10 with limited revs, like Minardi will use.

[ZfrkS62]

oh great, so baisically it's going to be a cluster fuck of scattered engine parts on the track

[Toronto]

i don't mind the switch to v-8's they say they will run up to 22,000+ RPM going to one hell of a sound