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Old 02-07-2007, 03:24 PM   #256
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wicked vid of the M3

I'm not sure that roadster shot is the new one. It definitely does not have a retractable roof like the description says. It looks pretty close to the E85 hardtop cover. If you look at the back, there's really no place to store a folding hard top and i'm having a tough time envisioning a feasible way to retract it and store it the way they do with the soft top. Besides, i think we still have 4 more years until the Z4's lifespan is up.
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Old 02-08-2007, 11:01 AM   #257
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So when will we finally see it?
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Old 02-09-2007, 12:56 AM   #258
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ok, i was explaining to my shop foreman what was going on in here with the so called "Z9" test mules, and from what he was saying, there will be no roadster after the Z4 lifespan is over. According to what he has heard, BMW feels this market has been tapped and will not be bringing out another roadster. Not for about 10 more years anyway.

So until i hear otherwise, no more roadster mules please.
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Old 02-11-2007, 05:57 PM   #259
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http://zatzy.com/showthread.php?t=289633 check these two E90 bmws, me likes...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46951 this is one beauty too.
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Old 02-13-2007, 08:38 AM   #260
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best thread in this forum
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Old 02-14-2007, 03:28 AM   #261
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PRESS RELEASE: M SPORT COMES TO THE 3 SERIES COUPE AND CONVERTIBLE

The BMW 3 Series Coupe and Convertible ranges both have a new flagship model. The M Sport specification level is now the most dynamic and sporting incarnation currently available for the recently launched Coupé and Convertible ranges.

Offered on all engine variants, M Sport cars come with a raft of additional equipment as standard compared to an SE model. An M Aerodynamic body styling package gives the cars a distinct, sporting look, while Sport suspension with a stiffer, and 15mm lower, set-up provides a more focussed ride. All models come with 18-inch M star-spoke light alloy wheels as standard with a differently styled 19-inch M Double-spoke light alloy wheel as an option. High-gloss Shadow line exterior finishes to the window surrounds is also a standard feature.

Inside, all M Sport models feature Sports seats upholstered in Blue Shadow cloth Alcantara, Individual anthracite headlining, M designation doorsill finishers and a short-shift M gearlever with a perforated leather gaiter and handbrake lever. A Brushed Aluminium interior trim and M leather steering wheel complete the package.

M Sport models are traditionally a popular choice for BMW buyers. On six-cylinder-engined 3 Series Coupé and Convertible models they account for more than three-quarters of all sales. The introduction of this latest generation of sports model is expected to maintain this ratio. M Sport model cars are only available in a choice of four metallic colours (Titanium Silver, Black Sapphire, Le Mans Blue, Sparkling Graphite) and two non-metallic colours (Alpine White, Crimson Red).

Prices start at £28,330 OTR for a 320i M Sport Coupé rising to £37,745 OTR for a 335d M Sport Coupé. The entry-level 320i M Sport Convertible costs £32,255 OTR while the range-topping 335i M Sport costs £40,250 OTR..

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Old 02-21-2007, 11:16 PM   #262
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Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
i'd love to know where the hell this is
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Old 02-24-2007, 10:33 AM   #263
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From KGP and Winding Road:

We’ve already shown you spy shots of BMW’s upcoming mystery convertible, whose name and mission remain up in the air. Many have felt (including us) that the car’s length points to an uplevel Z9 designation and price point, but some have speculated that the roadster is in fact the next Z4.

Some interesting insights have been brought to light by these first-ever top down shots, leading spy shooters at KGP Photography to suspect that the car is in fact a prototype for the less-expensive Z4, a car which many sources pegged as growing to provide room for an even smaller, cheaper convertible (Z2?).

According to our long-lensed friends, there are a few contextual clues worth paying attention to. For one, the cloth interior of this tester could just be for a prototype, but their inclusion could well point to less expensive vehicle (read: Z4). Furthermore, this mule was seen dicing it up with a Mazda MX-5, which was likely on-hand for dynamic benchmarking.

Finally, the apparent size discrepancy between the current Z4 and this car may be partially explained away by some creative camouflaging which appears to leave “several inches” worth of space between the cover-ups and the actual body panels that lurk beneath.

Behold the first shots of BMW’s new convertible prototype caught with its top down. It probably sounded like a good idea at the time, but the temptation of a top-down test run came back to bite these BMW engineers when our photographer caught the car stuck in traffic and pounced on them at a stop light. The close-ups didn’t yield any meaningful dashboard details thanks to the interior’s protective covering and the flailing arms of the engineers, but we did manage to see some details that suggest this might actually be a Z4 after all, and not the Merc SL-fighting Z9.

First off, we have been told that the MX-5 Miata you see driving in front of this prototype was no mere traffic coincidence. Our photographer reports that the Miata appeared to be part of the test group throughout the afternoon. It seemed to be on hand for comparison purposes–which would clearly point to the Z4 replacement as the likely I.D. of this prototype. These topless photos also reveal that this test car had cloth seats–something that would never be found on a car in the Z9’s stratosphere–once again strengthening the Z4 case. The stowed top also gives a more revealing look at the rear deck just behind the car’s roll-hoops, and cut lines suggest that this could be a conventional soft top, and not the folding tin- top destined for the range-topping Z9. We can’t know for sure until we see the folding top in action, but it all looks quite suspicious to us.

As for the apparent size discrepancy between this prototype and the Z4, it could largely due to some ingenious camouflage. A closer look at some of the space between the outer camouflage and the true body that lies beneath suggests that the camo shell may sit several inches above the real body panels in many places. The hood camouflage, for example, easily sits 4- to 6-inches above the true hood-line, at the cowl. Strategic placement of such misleading dimensional cues can be very effective in playing tricks on our eyes and perceptions. There may be a significantly more svelte and petit car under all of that armor. And the next-gen Z4 could logically be upsized a bit, if BMW plans to bring a smaller Z2 into its lineup by decade’s-end, as rumors suggest.

These latest open-top shots of this Z-car prototype may raise more questions than they answer, but they give us a better sense of what lies at the heart of these mysterious test cars. Our first look into the cockpit area suggests that this is a car aimed at a more mainstream part of the market–and not at the stratosphere–which has us beginning to lean back toward the Z4.


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Old 02-24-2007, 11:13 AM   #264
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Originally Posted by ZfrkS62
You may notice in that list that there is a new engine listed, designated the N51. This is the SULEV replacement for the M56 motor. It is available in certain 328i's in AUTOMATIC trans only. I am not sure as to the complete designation because none of the literature mentions it.
I just received my VIN and it's coded for the N51 SULEV engine, but my car is a 6MT. Can you confirm this info?
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Old 02-24-2007, 11:22 AM   #265
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Originally Posted by vexor
Spy vid of the E92 M3

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/v...80%99s-e92-m3/

I have congratulate the cameraman, filming while driving at those speeds...
Ok... that was SERIOUSLY quick. :shock:
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Old 02-25-2007, 12:57 AM   #266
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Originally Posted by STE92VE
Originally Posted by ZfrkS62
You may notice in that list that there is a new engine listed, designated the N51. This is the SULEV replacement for the M56 motor. It is available in certain 328i's in AUTOMATIC trans only. I am not sure as to the complete designation because none of the literature mentions it.
I just received my VIN and it's coded for the N51 SULEV engine, but my car is a 6MT. Can you confirm this info?
i would need the last 7 of the vin to be able to look up what engine you have installed.
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Old 02-26-2007, 03:50 PM   #267
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DSG 420HP M3?

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/02/26/4...ing-to-geneva/
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Old 02-26-2007, 04:43 PM   #268
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Originally Posted by ae86_16v
now that would be something. even though i have no idea just what the performance benefits are of a DSG box over a conventional, but i'm sure that will change soon.
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:06 AM   #269
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Originally Posted by STE92VE
Originally Posted by ZfrkS62
You may notice in that list that there is a new engine listed, designated the N51. This is the SULEV replacement for the M56 motor. It is available in certain 328i's in AUTOMATIC trans only. I am not sure as to the complete designation because none of the literature mentions it.
I just received my VIN and it's coded for the N51 SULEV engine, but my car is a 6MT. Can you confirm this info?
I forgot to mention in my reply to you, Welcome to Jabbasworld.

I also made a mistake in the post which he quoted: The N51 engine is actually a PZEV classified engine (Partial Zero Emissions Vehicle) which means it's emissions output is about as close as you can get to nothing. It does replace the SULEV M56 directly, but the N52 motors are now SULEV IIRC.

Like it's M56 predecessor, it is identical to it's environmentally-less-friendly sibling, the N52, (by comparison of course. The New Generation engines are actually quite clean) performance wise.
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:36 AM   #270
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Thanks for all your help. Maybe you can answer this question I just thought of....what would be the reason for limiting the SULEV engine to an auto tranny?
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