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SFDMALEX · 08-16-2005, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by saadie

ohh and its slower

Thats what they say, but its not. Much newer car, much better suspension and power delivery. I know I know, I head of cases were it was "slower" but I call bullshit on that, it just cant be, wouldnt make any sense.

SFDMALEX · 08-16-2005, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by nthfinity

its definately fast.

Oh hell yea. I seen a lot of track videos with F40s and man they just destroy every single car on the track, the acceleration from them is mad. Plus we've all seen the BM vids were it was champion for many years, and were it beat a Diablo GT

So that ring time is tottal bullshit. No way it laps as fast as some random beemer.

Mopsdrops · 08-16-2005, 12:31 PM

Humm, good to see that the ring time of the F40 was BS then, I got scared it was real

thanks for all the info , guys

ZfrkS62 · 08-16-2005, 12:48 PM

I'd venture to think that an F40 would be in the much lower 8 min times. I agree with whoever mentioned Clarkson. Let's get him on the phone and set this thing up

|Nuno| · 08-16-2005, 02:56 PM

That 8:39 time was set on the longer version of the 'Ring. And it was only the second flying lap, if I'm not mistaken.

To answer the original question, I think the Diablo would be faster on a straight, but slower on about every track...

The only comparison that I have is a Best Motoring SuperBattle involving those two and alot more - the F40 kicked the Diablo's butt by a long shot on Suzuka. And while the drivers weren't the same, the time gap between the 2 cars was clearer than any possible skill difference. I uploaded the video to the Vault some time ago, if anyone who has access wants to check it out.

nthfinity · 08-16-2005, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by |Nuno|

That 8:39 time was set on the longer version of the 'Ring. And it was only the second flying lap, if I'm not mistaken.

To answer the first question, I think the Diablo would be faster on a straight, but slower on about every track...

The only comparison that I have is a Best Motoring SuperBattle involving those two and alot more - the F40 kicked the Diablo's butt by a long shot on Suzuka. And while the drivers weren't the same, the time gap between the 2 cars was clearer than any possible skill difference. I uploaded the video to the Vault some time ago, if anyone who has access wants to check it out.

im 100% sure i dont have that one, ill have to look er up

|Nuno| · 08-16-2005, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by dani_d_mas

The Ring time... well... does anybody knows who was the driver? I mean... it's way different if we're talking about a rich-old owner or about the Ring-master Sabine... give one F40 to her and I'm sure she will faster than 8'39, which is really really slow! According to the Evo mag (issue 83, page 16), the new BMW 130i did a 8'35... and the F40 is much faster than this!

Like I (and others said) dani, the 8:39 was set on the 22.5 Km course, only on the second flying lap... The Lambo did its time on the new course, which is about 2 Kms shorter. And yeah, it would be interesting to know who was the driver...

Anyway, I'm positive that on the new course, it would clock somewhere in the mid to high 40's with decent rubber.

im 100% sure i dont have that one, ill have to look er up

Do it, it's well worth it.

saadie · 08-17-2005, 12:38 AM

.. 2 km shorter ... mann .... this is confusing .....
anyone got real times of every car tested on the ring .. please post it ... oh and make sure the ring dosnt change its size

..... or call sabine ......

there must be a site dedicated to the ring times .... :roll:

RC45 · 08-17-2005, 01:10 AM

The track will either turn right at T13 and left down Hatzenbach, or the old layout that went straight after the Schikane and down past the old pits and then back up to rejoin at Hatzenbach.

The modern version of this "extended" track includes the new GP circuit in this section.

dingo · 08-17-2005, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by |Nuno|

That 8:39 time was set on the longer version of the 'Ring. And it was only the second flying lap, if I'm not mistaken.

To answer the original question, I think the Diablo would be faster on a straight, but slower on about every track...

The only comparison that I have is a Best Motoring SuperBattle involving those two and alot more - the F40 kicked the Diablo's butt by a long shot on Suzuka. And while the drivers weren't the same, the time gap between the 2 cars was clearer than any possible skill difference. I uploaded the video to the Vault some time ago, if anyone who has access wants to check it out.

but that was the 'normal' Diablo, and not the GT right?

|Nuno| · 08-17-2005, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by dingo

Originally Posted by |Nuno|

That 8:39 time was set on the longer version of the 'Ring. And it was only the second flying lap, if I'm not mistaken.

To answer the original question, I think the Diablo would be faster on a straight, but slower on about every track...

The only comparison that I have is a Best Motoring SuperBattle involving those two and alot more - the F40 kicked the Diablo's butt by a long shot on Suzuka. And while the drivers weren't the same, the time gap between the 2 cars was clearer than any possible skill difference. I uploaded the video to the Vault some time ago, if anyone who has access wants to check it out.

but that was the 'normal' Diablo, and not the GT right?

Nope, it was the GT.

It did a 2:32.9 as best lap (on a 3 lap race), while the F40 did 2:25.2. Though you must add about one second or even a bit more to the F40 time, because it cut the last chicane.

Toronto · 08-17-2005, 03:30 PM

[quote="RC45"]

Originally Posted by saadie

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Uhm - even the C5 Z06 ran 7m56s - quicker than both those uber-super-duper-pastrami cars

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what a diff. 20years make

RC45 · 08-17-2005, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Toronto

Originally Posted by RC45

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Uhm - even the C5 Z06 ran 7m56s - quicker than both those uber-super-duper-pastrami cars

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what a diff. 20years make

That time is better than the F360 and Porker 911... from recent history - not 20 years ago.

J-San · 09-02-2005, 06:49 PM

F40
0-60 in 3.8s
0-100 in 7.8s
0-125 in 11.0s
1/4mile in 11.6s at 126.5mph

Diablo GT
0-60 in 3.8s
0-100 in 8.0s
0-125 in 11.8s
1/4mile in 11.8s at 124mph

In straight line, the F40 is marginally quicker; on the track, the F40 is going to be much quicker: it's lighter, corners better and stops better. Best Motoring compared the F40 with the Diablo SV (itself a lighweight Diablo, although not as radical as the GT) at the Suzuka circuit and the F40 was incomparably faster - 2:25s vs 2:32s per lap, a 7s difference. I don't believe the Diablo GT can be more than 7 seconds per lap faster than the Diablo SV, so it can never be faster than the F40.

Besides that, in BM videos it has already been proven that the F40 is almost as fast on the track as the F50, and the F50 is much faster than the Murciélago (remember the Murciélago is faster on the track than the Diablo GT).

Case closed, F40 wins!

HoboPie · 09-04-2005, 02:05 AM

An F40 is still as quick as a 360 CS at Fiorano. Anywhere it could stretch its legs even a little it would outpace the CS without much trouble.

The CS laps the Nring in under 8 minutes so I'm betteing the F40 could too.