02-23-2007, 06:46 PM
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^ Interesting point. I don't agree with you however when you say that lag doesn't matter. To me, instantaneous throttle response is a very important aspect of driving pleasure. The level of direct feedback you get from a NA engine is just that much higher. Always using high revs may take some of the turbo-lag away, but that's not how I'd like to be driving all the time.
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02-23-2007, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Svensson
^ Interesting point. I don't agree with you however when you say that lag doesn't matter. To me, instantaneous throttle response is a very important aspect of driving pleasure. The level of direct feedback you get from a NA engine is just that much higher. Always using high revs may take some of the turbo-lag away, but that's not how I'd like to be driving all the time.
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youve still got a 500hp v10 for your throttle response.
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02-24-2007, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ae86_16v
I wonder how long would that engine last.
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I wouldn't be worried about the motor so much as the transmission...
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02-24-2007, 01:14 AM
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^ Good point, the entire drive train.
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02-24-2007, 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by gobs3z
About rear mounted turbo chargers, i've talked to plenty of people that have driven cars with that set up and they all have said that turbo lag is almost non exhistent (which is the total opposite of what i thought), but these were on torquey V-8's. And if you have any common sense, turbo lag does not matter if you're driving the car the way it should be driven, with the revs up, this is what "down shifting" is for.
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This is correct - the rearmount STS turbos dont suffer anymore lag than any other turbo system.. after all - the lag is nto form the length of the intake run.. its time to spool the air
liquid in one end of a pipe means liquid out the other end of the pipe at the same time
there is no measurable compression in the intake run - at least that is what all the tests and the STS owners say.
Anyway, I am more perplexed by the way these guys managed to get the laws of physics repealed for themselves.
240mph from a measily 800bhp with that large brick like car?
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02-24-2007, 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by RC45
240mph from a measily 800bhp with that large brick like car? 
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Well the Veyron needs another 200bhp to get only 10 more miles per hour  .
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02-24-2007, 05:19 AM
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the engine compartment offers no room for any kind of forced induction set up. Even if you were to set one up, the heat generated from the turbos would destroy the engine in no time. Mounting the turbos in the rear alleviates this. Also keeps the engine from "heat soak" when you shut it off. All you have to do really is make sure you can still get oil to the turbos and you're golden.
The S85, from what i have heard from people who have been to M5 class, is capable of 725+ bhp n/a and 13-14K RPM.
What i find interesting is, the car is gear limited to 207mph, so w/o drivetrain revisions i don't see how 240 is possible
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02-24-2007, 07:40 AM
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Veyron Cd: 0,355
M5 Cd: 0,31
the engineers probably just pulled these numbers in their most basic top-speed equation and then ignored that their tires would explode way before 240...
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02-24-2007, 01:19 PM
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Crocodile leather interior :roll: Only Americans could have thought of that. But anyway, the specs are impressive although it will never do 240mph of course.
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02-24-2007, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by martin100
Crocodile leather interior :roll: Only Americans could have thought of that. But anyway, the specs are impressive although it will never do 240mph of course.
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What exactly is the point of this comment?
For the record, and a quick search on Google will show some of the most gawdy and fucking ugly overkill ever applied to any car is sourced from and promoted by and built by German tuning firms.
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It is seriously like some of you will look for any opportunity to hate on the US.. even if it is in relation to your blessed M5...
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02-24-2007, 06:37 PM
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Gangsta.
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02-26-2007, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by malte
Veyron Cd: 0,355
M5 Cd: 0,31
the engineers probably just pulled these numbers in their most basic top-speed equation and then ignored that their tires would explode way before 240...
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hehe so true
those seats look rather uncomfortable though with that leather croco pattern  and those rims, come on :roll: looks like now a days everything is centered on these "gangstas" it's so rediculous
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06-17-2007, 12:32 PM
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I can't believe all y'all are hatin on the gator interior...
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06-17-2007, 12:39 PM
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^^ Somehow I get the feeling you love it
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06-17-2007, 12:53 PM
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As I've said, I like the interior and I think it's original :good:
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