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Old 06-21-2007, 02:53 AM   #16
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I suppose that those who doesn't like the Veyron due to all the electronics don't like cars like the Porsche 959, the Skyline GT-R or the Lancer EVO either.
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Old 06-21-2007, 03:48 AM   #17
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It's an engineering marvel for sure, but to me the greatest car ever would have to be something you could drive without so much worry. First, it's terribly expensive; even if i were rich I wouldn't want to risk hurting it just because of the sum of money. Secondly, like all super cars, it's pretty limited in real world scenarios. Near perfect pavement is a must.

That's why i like rally cars, muscle cars, and cheap (performance) cars. They're more practical and much more versatile. Still, I wouldn't mind owning a veyron . . .
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Old 06-21-2007, 03:51 AM   #18
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[quote="Svensson"]
Originally Posted by ferrarif1fan89
The F1 has everything the Veyron lacks: High revving N/A engine with ITB's
ITB's????? Instant Throttle Bodies?? lol
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Old 06-21-2007, 04:10 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by DeMoN
McLaren F1 still king. Much more character than that lethery comfortable junk. Never forget what McLaren acomplished with less than HALF the hp veyron has.

Over twice the HP 10 more years and turbo (vs NA engine) is what it took to beat the McLaren? Yeah i call that accomplishment LOL

Veyron twice the BHP of a Mclaren F1 - are we talking about the same cars here?

Most accomplished car, definately. Best, not so certain.
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Old 06-21-2007, 05:31 AM   #20
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[quote="dons5"]
Originally Posted by Svensson
Originally Posted by ferrarif1fan89
The F1 has everything the Veyron lacks: High revving N/A engine with ITB's
ITB's????? Instant Throttle Bodies?? lol
You quoted the wrong person, buddy.
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Old 06-21-2007, 05:36 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by gangajas
I suppose that those who doesn't like the Veyron due to all the electronics don't like cars like the Porsche 959, the Skyline GT-R or the Lancer EVO either.
I wouldn't say I dislike them, but they're definately not in the top 10 of my list, no.

Originally Posted by dons5
Originally Posted by Svensson
The F1 has everything the Veyron lacks: High revving N/A engine with ITB's
ITB's????? Instant Throttle Bodies?? lol
Individual Throttle Bodies, of course the F1 has 12 of those beauties instead of 4.
And they're indeed pretty "instant" in response.

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Old 06-22-2007, 02:50 AM   #22
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lol that was just a random guess lol, cool so what does it mean better throttle response?? You never hear ppl talkin bout throttle bodies. do u know what the enzo has?
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Old 06-22-2007, 04:25 AM   #23
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Originally Posted by dons5
You never hear ppl talkin bout throttle bodies. do u know what the enzo has?
I would assume it has throttle bodies as well. :roll:
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Old 06-22-2007, 06:22 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by dons5
lol that was just a random guess lol, cool so what does it mean better throttle response?? You never hear ppl talkin bout throttle bodies. do u know what the enzo has?
I don't want to go too off-topic here, but in general the main advantages are a better throttle response and the possibility to deliver more air to each cylinder if properly tuned, which will ofcourse increase the power. Another big advantage (at least for me) is the lovely throaty induction growl that ITBs help to produce.

The Ferrari Enzo has ITBs, so does the CGT, Caparo T1, every BMW M-engine, every sportbike, a lot of N/A racing cars and a few other cars.

For more info, read this:
http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_3049/article.html

For an example of what ITBs sound like, see this:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...29901497002153
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Old 06-23-2007, 05:30 PM   #25
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Maybe not the best, but if you don't appreciate it you do not Love cars
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Old 06-23-2007, 07:15 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by bmuller
The veyron would be something you brag about owning and show off to your friends. Then on the weekends you park it in the garage and take a real sports car to the track...
hahaha well said bmuller, cannot put it funnier.

It would be cool to use the Veyron to tow a trailer with a Porche on it.
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Old 06-24-2007, 01:52 AM   #27
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I don't know if it's the best car ever built, but it's definately up there.
I don't care that it's loaded up with electronics and various nanny devices. Ask someone why they want a Ferrari and 9 times out of 10, they'll say that the technology was a reason.
What I find most appealing is that it's a big, rolling middle finger to all those that said it couldn't be done or that it wouldn't be done. It's not often that a company like VAG, is willing to risk so much on something like this just to prove that it could be done.



All I'm sure of is that if I could afford it, I'd have one. Black with blue please.
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:16 AM   #28
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As a technical piece of engineering it is easily the best but as passionate exciting supercar no not really.....
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:27 AM   #29
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The veyron is still heavy piece of shit.
Give me the mclaren f1 anyday over the veyron.
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Old 06-24-2007, 11:12 AM   #30
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I think the question here is wrong in general...

Have any of us driven a Veyron ???

if we are going looks wise i would say the McLaren.
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