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Daggernite · 12-17-2007, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by nthfinity

Wow.... if a car in the US is in the shop for a third time to fix the same issue, we have something called "lemon laws" where the dealer/manufactuerer are obliged to buy the car back.

Its not like the dealer network in the US is everybody 100% awesome... the best dealer network where every shop i've been to were Subaru, and Saab... I'm sure there are bad apples, but it seems so similar at all of them

.... not so with most other marques.

There is probably something similar in the UK too. But honda gave me a deal on a civic typeR which im gunna take them up on after xmas, so im not too bothered now.

79TA · 12-17-2007, 09:56 PM

I can't wait for the RS . . . even if it is thousands of miles away. Sigh.

fordgt84 · 12-18-2007, 05:41 AM

very good news
pleeeeeease let it be awd

rave426 · 12-18-2007, 03:47 PM

Did anyone see this article at www.worldcarfans.com

excerpt..

Power will come from a modified version of Volvo's turbocharged 2.5-litre five-cylinder engine with power produced expected at 280 hp and torque of 400 lb.-ft, propelling the RS somewhat beyond that of the 225 hp ST model. The RS will face tough competition from that of the new Mitsubishi Evo X and Subaru Impreza STi.

400lb-ft torque! ...........that must be a type-O. Thats more diesel like than anything. If it were trure, then that car would have to be AWD....and it would be an insane machine.

redbaron · 12-20-2007, 03:49 PM

I really look forward to this car. I hope it will be 4wd just like the good old cossies. I do however think it will be a FWD with a clever active diff, similar to the previous RS.

T-Bird · 12-20-2007, 05:41 PM

watch them just rebody a car from a sister company and sell it. Hell they could use the Mazda DISI engine for just under 300hp and roughly the same torque. And then the aftermarket is already there.

inso · 12-21-2007, 12:49 PM

http://news.windingroad.com/countrie...30r-is-coming/
also a sister car is in the pipeline.

redbaron · 12-21-2007, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by inso

http://news.windingroad.com/countrie...30r-is-coming/
also a sister car is in the pipeline.

This could mean that development costs can be shared and hopefully will lead to two 4wd 300 bhp bullets.

HeilSvenska · 06-12-2008, 01:33 PM

NEW FORD FOCUS RS ON TRACK AS FIRST DETAILS CONFIRMED
Cologne, June 12, 2008 - Ford RS is back and the all-new Focus RS is on track! An early prototype of the fastest Focus road car to date is now undergoing performance and durability testing at the challenging Nürburgring Circuit in Germany, in preparation for its launch in 2009.

The principal architect of the Focus RS project is Ford of Europe's Vehicle Line Director for Performance Vehicles, Jost Capito, whose Team RS development group were responsible for the first generation Focus RS in 2002, and more recently, the Fiesta ST and the new Focus ST.

Capito said: "The new Focus RS is as much a car for driving enthusiasts as the one before it and classic Ford RS models of the past. We're staying true to the core RS principles of a no-compromise, affordable high performance road car you can live with. The new Focus RS will have the muscles, heart and soul of a genuine RS and will be exciting to drive every day."

The all-new Focus RS features a specially developed, turbocharged version of the Duratec 2.5-litre engine, based on Focus ST, but significantly revised to generate over 280PS and more than 400 Nm of torque, thus achieving an excellent power-to-weight ratio.

Various chassis innovations, developed in conjunction with Ford's Advanced Engineering Centre in Aachen are being tuned for the new car by the Cologne-based Ford Team RS. Their overriding objective is to achieve optimized driving dynamics and on road performance through an advanced technology front-wheel drive system, combined with a limited-slip differential.

"In early prototypes based on Focus ST vehicles, the new system is more than meeting our targets for exceptional levels of traction, handling and steering," Capito added. "Given that the enthusiastic team behind the car are all performance vehicle enthusiasts, you can imagine that our standards are high."

Ford Focus - A great starting point
The standard Ford Focus is an excellent base for a high performance car - agile, responsive and stable.

While the latest Focus ST has already proved this to be the case, the new RS will take these qualities to the next level, benefitting from extensive engineering knowledge gained through the Company's highly successful Motorsport programmes, notably with the Focus World Rally Car.

"We have no doubt that we can enhance the acclaimed qualities of the already excellent Focus for an even higher performance model than the ST," Capito added. "Now, we are going through the rigorous job of proving out our technical approach in extensive testing and tuning over a variety of roads including the most demanding track in the world, the "Green Hell" that is the Nürburgring Nordschleife!"

"With two consecutive Manufacturers' World Rally Championship titles and the success of Fiesta and Focus ST models, we have the knowledge and the experience. The time is right for Ford to deliver a new high performance model for the legions of loyal Ford RS customers around Europe," Capito concluded.

The new Focus RS test and development programme is now well underway and will continue for several months, prior to the vehicle being readied for production in early 2009.

Although the internet and car magazines around the globe have continued to offer their opinions as to how the new car will look and drive, customers will get the first look at a production-intent vehicle with its world premiere at the London Motor Show in late July.

Further technical details of the all-new Focus RS will be released closer to launch.

pagani · 06-12-2008, 02:27 PM

I think it will be fwd
And the old school ford lot will have a new engine conversion/swap

HeilSvenska · 06-12-2008, 02:57 PM

^
Press release says

Their overriding objective is to achieve optimized driving dynamics and on road performance through an advanced technology front-wheel drive system, combined with a limited-slip differential.

torrentjunkie · 06-12-2008, 04:00 PM

looks good, would rather it in orange tho lol. hope it comes a 4wd

toffytofik · 06-12-2008, 05:22 PM

2.5L turbo with 280ps/400Nm in the front-wheel drive? LOL, i think that car will be vicious. I'd say forget about threating STi' & EVO', i even doubt this will be good enough to outrun the latest Type-R' of Japan...
All i want to know is the torque curve, how much will it weight and the tires. Proper LSD is a must and they better fit it with some decent traction control system. Anyway, personally i don't expect much out of this...

As for not going for awd, i recall reading somewhere that according to Ford "awd is too complicated" (Duh!) I interpreted it as: "why waste the time and money messing with development of awd when in the end it'll just reduce the reliability, bump the weight and rise the pricetag so the car won't sell properly? You can always go the "easy way" and make the car accelerate faster by using a bigger power unit..."
"New Focus RS, new design, bigger engine. Please buy and feel the difference."

HeilSvenska · 06-12-2008, 08:21 PM

Yeaaaah. Unfortunately, Ford thought it'd better make an R32 rival... Come on Ford, you have the right 4WD hardware, why not use it?

Well. Who knows what it'll actually be like... other than the maddening torque steer and the schizophrenic handling one expects...

Does Nth know something we should know?

rave426 · 06-13-2008, 04:38 PM

Give me the FOCUS RS with AWD!!!!

Dammit Ford.

This would be the perfect time for them to take control of that market. The STI looks like utter garbage and the Evo X is not the best looking thing and is ONLY better than the IX on a track.

The Focus RS with AWD would freaking own. It looks awesome and has an incredible engine. Ford needs to tighten some bolts in their head.