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Old 05-15-2007, 07:51 AM   #421
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I love the current 7er.. I wounder what they have in plan..
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Old 05-15-2007, 09:39 PM   #422
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Originally Posted by Erez
I love the current 7er.. I wounder what they have in plan..
i dunno, but if there's going to be a change to the power plant at any point in the production series, there should be test mules out and about Germany right now.

They're usually pretty secretive about the 7 aren't they? Has anyone ever seen any spy shots of previous models? I can't recall seeing any.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:29 PM   #423
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yeah! its like the 7er is the biggest secret.. you never have real idea about what their gonna do..
..I have faith tho, I know I'll probably love it too
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:02 AM   #424
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Erez, I thought I was the only one who loved the E65 7!
This is old news... but it's about the next-gen 7-series anyway:








Renderings:



^Nice to see the 7-series with quad exhausts

The new 7-series will be a ground-breaking model, for its design, chassis and powertrain. It's appropriate that the new car's codename begins with an F, with BMW having exhausted its series of 'E' designations, introduced in 1968. The F01 will look more sleek and sporty than today's battleship, with its boot on which you could land a Harrier.

Check out the prototype's proportions. The roofline is faster, the glasshouse more coupe-like and the overall look more compact and dynamic. Most of the details remain closely guarded, but the wraparound nature of the lamps is clearly visible. Sources say the boot is better integrated (although padding disguises this) and the sheet metal is less hyperactive. Naturally, the front end is classic BMW, with a big kidney grille and twin bulbs. The headlamp graphic is said to be all-new.

Project F01 will introduce a new modular chassis, which will donate parts to the next 5-series, 6-series and even a baby Rolls-Royce. BMW is packing the rear-drive chassis with gadgets. Today's self-levelling rear suspension is ditched for a more sophisticated four-wheel air suspension, which should be standard. Dubbed DAS for Dynamic Air Suspension, the new set-up is claimed to combine unrivalled ride comfort with best-in-class dynamics, if you specify Dynamic Drive (adjustable anti-roll bars). That should top Mercedes, which doesn't offer Airmatic together with its ABC (Active Body Control) system. Other options will include Active Steering (variable rate) and four-wheel drive (xDrive).

Other available items should include night vision, an M5-style head-up display, active cruise control, front and rear cameras acting as real-time parking aids, soft-close doors, a lane departure warning device and an eye movement monitor.

There will again be a long-wheelbase 7-series, codenamed F02. BMW has pulled back from a plan to offer two different body styles: emphatically sporty for the standard-wheelbase car and ostentatiously luxurious for the lwb version. So the F02 simply features a 140mm chunk of extra sheet metal to lengthen the wheelbase and to extend the rear doors. Nose and tail remain unchanged however, and so does the height of the roofline which appears to be about on par with today's car's.

The F01 7-series will be available with petrol-electric hybrid propulsion, with the fruits of the DaimlerChrysler/GM/BMW alliance due to come to fruition around the time of the 7-series' introduction. The conventional powertrains will be evolutions of the current six-, eight- and twelve-cylinder units. The petrol versions will go direct-injection with a fuel economy bias for Europe and a performance bias for the rest of the world. The diesels get even more power and torque along with an increasingly expensive desmogging equipment.

Inside, the 2001 revolution will also be over-turned. The gearshifter returns from the steering column to the transmission tunnel, and it will have the beautiful 'swan neck' design introduced on the X5 Mk2. Like in the M5/M6, there are two different shift levels to choose from: automatic (to the right) and manual (to the left). You can self shift via wheel mounted buttons.

Positioned next to the gear stick are the switches which activate DSC, the sport mode and the electronic parking brake. Again in a prominent position sits the even taller iDrive controller, which reportedly feels and acts in a more intuitive fashion. BMW owners will also be familiar with the integrated in-dash colour monitor, the stacked music and AC controls and the two large round instruments.

Materials naturally mix wood, leather and metal, and the design is influenced by fancy furniture. Innovations worth mentioning include fully adjustable pro-active seats, a multi-mood cabin lighting and a draught-free so-called 'Airolution' air-con system, courtesy of the specialist supplier Behr.

-- It has been confirmed that the next-generation 7-series won't have the same platform as the upcoming Baby Rolls-Royce, as previously reported. Here's a rendering anyway which looks :shock:

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Old 05-28-2007, 11:07 AM   #425
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From Motor Authority:
BMW prides itself on having some of the most dynamic and involving vehicles on the market today, but its fleet still lacks a genuine sports car or a true successor for the original M1. Some may argue that BMW already offers the 507hp V10-powered M6 Coupe, but to the purists the M6 is an overweight four-seater GT that compromises performance for comfort.

Instead, BMW is rumored to be working on a new super-sports car to rival Audi’s R8 and Porsche’s 911 with its release scheduled for the end of the decade. According to Germany’s Autozeitung.de, development work is being handled strictly by BMW’s M division with the new model likely to be named the M10. The source also reports that BMW has ruled out building a mid-engined car and instead will go with a front-engine, rear-drive layout.

Powering the M10 will most likely by an upgraded version of the M5/M6 5.0L V10, with power boosted to around the 550hp level, however, a turbocharged version of the 4.0L V8 destined for the new M3 has also been considered.

The key goal of the M10 project is to save weight. Extensive use of carbon-fiber, magnesium and aluminum are to be employed to ensure overall weight is kept below 1,400kg. The styling for the M10 is said to be influenced heavily by the Concept CS, which was displayed recently in Shanghai. The most notable features that should carry over include the oversized kidney grilles, aggressive front bumper and the low roofline.

-- I think that the Concept CS is a little too extreme but a genuine sports car from BMW sounds awesome! I also want a supercar from them to thrash the SLR and show McLaren what they're missing out on
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:22 AM   #426
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M10 That's excelent news !!
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Old 05-28-2007, 12:21 PM   #427
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More news!
The F3 is given the greenlight. News on the F3 is posted in the link below. Just to clarify, it is classified as a crossover (like an upmarket Toyota Rav-4 or Honda CRV)and not a sportvan.
http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=47491
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Old 05-28-2007, 03:29 PM   #428
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the F3 was confirmed quite awhile ago. BMW has already said it is going to be produced in the Spartanburg, SC plant, along with the Z4 and X5. PLant output is expected to top 200,000 vehicle per year. They are also considering an X3 successor which would also be built at Spartanburg.

So far, that's 3 models on one production line.

Also take into account that the plant is run off of landfill Methane, piped in directly from a nearby landfill. BMW has been pushing the innovation envelope in all aspects.

Subaru has recently announced that their US plant produces no landfill waste. So I'm kind of wondering if car makers have found a loophole in all of this "go green" kick. :bah:
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Old 05-29-2007, 02:45 PM   #429
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To be honest...the F3 wasn't the most necessary project to come to life right now..BMW really need something to go against the CLS, SL, and SLR..they dont really need something to compete with the R-Klass since It doesnt really have a spot in the market to fill and isnt so well profitable.

And also those spots taken by the CLS , SL and SLR are very profitable, so way more important to BMW to have something against it.

The F3 feels unnecessary to me right now.
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Old 05-29-2007, 02:54 PM   #430
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BMW has already showcased the CS Concept which theoretically will go head to head with the CLS. As to when it will be produced is unknown, but a prototype chassis has been shown at Shanghai. It is unlikely they will scrap the project now.
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Old 05-29-2007, 03:06 PM   #431
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^ Yup the CS Concept will be the basis for the CLS-fighting 8-series while reports that an upcoming Z9 will go head-to-head with the SL. The SLR is profitable? At least the F3 won't follow the lonely and unprofitable path carved by the R-Class.
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Old 05-29-2007, 05:52 PM   #432
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Originally Posted by blue8
^ Yup the CS Concept will be the basis for the CLS-fighting 8-series while reports that an upcoming Z9 will go head-to-head with the SL. The SLR is profitable? At least the F3 won't follow the lonely and unprofitable path carved by the R-Class.
What have i said about the Z9 in this thread? It's most likely NOT happening.

And from what the article mentioned, the CLS fighter and the 8 series revival are two separate cars.
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Old 05-29-2007, 06:52 PM   #433
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The X6 and the possible successor for the X3 are completely different. I expect the X6 to be a midget version of the X5, but just as long.

The 8 series, I dunno. I would love to see another Arrow Nosed brute (but this time with a better power to weight ratio) compared to the shark nosed E63, especially if it's strictly a hardtop coupe. Granted the V12 would be bad ass in it, but i would want a ///M version of it for the 860Csi
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:16 AM   #434
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M3 to get DSG-style manual gearbox

The new BMW M3 will get a seven-speed double-clutch gearbox as an alternative to the standard six-speed manual.

Official confirmation of the long-rumoured transmission came via a document issued to BMW dealers confirming the car’s specification.

The new gearbox, called M DCT, will be available from March 2008. Made by BMW’s long-standing transmission partner Getrag, it will provide rapid and nearly imperceptible shifts.

The speed of a double-clutch transmission is likely to improve the M3’s 4.8sec 0-62mph time by a couple of tenths of a second. The system should offer significantly smoother shifts than BMW’s SMG transmission in the M5 and M6.

The transmission will be controlled by a combination of a shift lever, likely to be similar to the M5 and X5’s joystick control, and steering wheel paddles.

The 'box has been exclusively developed for BMW, and different versions are destined for the

3-series and the 5-series.

Other options for the M3 (on sale in September) include 19in alloy wheels and electronic damper control. The carbonfibre roof will be standard.
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:27 PM   #435
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^^ Good news !! I'm pretty sure this gearbox will make the M3 a bit faster.

I already saw an M3 with 19" wheels and they were cool. I don't know if they're the same. Anyway, it will look way better than with the stock 18" ones 8)
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