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Vansquish · 10-04-2004, 05:14 PM

how about MPS = Mazda Performance Series?

HeilSvenska · 10-05-2004, 12:13 AM

MPS = Mazda Performance Six

oldsnail · 10-05-2004, 04:57 AM

yeh... but 'mazdaSpeed' is the trademark name for all their factory performance tuning. toyota has there TRD, dodge has their MOPAC, benz with AMG , nissan NISMO etc..
mazdaSpeed miata, mazdaSpeed protege.. and mazdaSpeed 6.

no one calls it mps
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_sh...1_mazdaspeed6/

http://www.supercars.net/garages/84FordMan/6v2.html

Vansquish · 10-05-2004, 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by oldsnail

yeh... but 'mazdaSpeed' is the trademark name for all their factory performance tuning. toyota has there TRD, dodge has their MOPAC, benz with AMG , nissan NISMO etc..
mazdaSpeed miata, mazdaSpeed protege.. and mazdaSpeed 6.

no one calls it mps
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_sh...1_mazdaspeed6/

http://www.supercars.net/garages/84FordMan/6v2.html

Dodge has Mopar, not MOPAC, as for TRD, it's Toyota Racing Developments, MazdaSpeed is the SVT for Mazda, though it ought to be noted that several of the concepts that Mazda/Mazdaspeed have had of late were some model followed by the designation MPS. 626 MPS, Mazda 6 MPS etc...etc...I really believe it means Mazda Performance Series.

oldsnail · 10-05-2004, 02:37 PM

that was a typo, and i was just saying that in the past, they used the abbreveations such as MSP for there mazdaSpeed protege and MSM for the mazdaSpeed Miata. and also,with the recent debut of the mazdaSpeed Rx8. it just sound more consistant with their entire lineup to name it begining with a MS.

but we just have to wait and see, right?

google :mazda performance six and mazda performance series vs mazdaSpeed 6
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie...G=Search&meta=
and
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie...G=Search&meta=
vs
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie...G=Search&meta=

Vansquish · 10-05-2004, 03:28 PM

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame...hp&carnum=1157

http://www.cars.com/carsapp/myrtleb/...a/626_mps.tmpl

My point is that the MPS is not a designation that has been alotted ONLY to the 6, MSP for the Protege is all well and good, as is the MSM for the Miata, but it isn't that to which I'm referring. My guess is that it'll hit the market as the Mazdaspeed 6, not only because it follows the current naming trend, but because it says so on the Mazdaspeed website.

Perhaps MPS is Mazda Performance Series but refers only to concept cars...only problem with that line of thinking is that there was an UN-turbocharged Mazda Protege MPS with a 150bhp engine, and it wasn't only a concept car.

Ghostbat · 01-05-2006, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by mrmojo77

This is old topic, but I read a review of Mazda 6 MPS yesterday. Finnish magazine tested it and dynoed it after being suspicious about its power.
Mazda says it is 260BHP, 380Nm or torque and it will do 0-100kph in 6,6s.

Testdrivers drove 5,9 with the first try from 0-100kph and said that it would do even better if they would push it to the limit. They put the car in dyno and it gave the numbers 273+ HP and 400+ Nm.

MPS costs about 48000€ in Finland, where Evo VIII costs 58000€.

I could be interested if I were in need for a new car and I would have 48000€ extra

Yet haven't heard of anything about Mazda and WRC, but for sure it would be nice to see more manufacturers.

That's some very impressive figures. First time I hear of a testdriver that doesn't push the car to it's limit

Any chance it could be a slightly tuned press cars? it's not unheard of.

TransAm · 01-05-2006, 11:29 AM

^ are you saying the US Focus ST has a 2.3 motor or did I misunderstand you?

dutchmasterflex · 01-05-2006, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by gottacatchup

Originally Posted by CSedl87

Anyone else thinking that Mazda is about to hit the WRC? Think about it: 2.3L Turbo'd 4 (WRC spec is 2.0L, turbo, max 300hp) with 260. The 2.3T would be able to be taken down to 2.0L, and up to 300hp with ease. I dunno but it just seems like they're about to take the scooby, and mitsu on. That'd be awesome if they do....

I doubt mazda could easily get 300 bhp outa their 2.0 litre. Mazda is NOT an engine company and probably makes the worst engines of any major manufacturer. Either way i doubt they'd go into WRC, the 6 is too big and heavy to really be a competitor.

You don't give them any recognition for making the best rotary engines in the world?

jasc · 01-05-2006, 02:34 PM

^^ The Gentelemen's Agreement is long gone. HP can affect tax and insurance.

gottacatchup · 01-05-2006, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by dutchmasterflex

Originally Posted by gottacatchup

Originally Posted by CSedl87

Anyone else thinking that Mazda is about to hit the WRC? Think about it: 2.3L Turbo'd 4 (WRC spec is 2.0L, turbo, max 300hp) with 260. The 2.3T would be able to be taken down to 2.0L, and up to 300hp with ease. I dunno but it just seems like they're about to take the scooby, and mitsu on. That'd be awesome if they do....

I doubt mazda could easily get 300 bhp outa their 2.0 litre. Mazda is NOT an engine company and probably makes the worst engines of any major manufacturer. Either way i doubt they'd go into WRC, the 6 is too big and heavy to really be a competitor.

You don't give them any recognition for making the best rotary engines in the world?

way to read the topic

I think the renesis is an amazing engine, one of the greats but the remainder of the past mazda cylander engines, specifically the FS series were terrible.