02-23-2007, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by everso
i was born and raised in DETROIT. the hometown of the Corvette...and all american cars for that matter.....we see more Corvettes in 1 week in Detroit than people in Texas or anywhere else see in a year......
it's a car which i got tired of very early in life...and when i was growing up, people DID have mullets......big strong ones! LOL.
i know it's not a mullet only car.....but i have seen some pretty amazing mullets behind the steering wheel of them near Detroit
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Mullets haven't been driving corvettes for the better part of 15 years... but, it was once true. Business up front, Party in the back!  hahaha
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02-23-2007, 10:47 PM
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Not to rain on your parade here Gray, but while the C6 Z06 are a great car and Im sure this Z06 will be even better than the previous one, its hardly like what they make are inventing new stuff, we are talking about basic car engineering here.....
What comapnies do you think want to know how GM gets the power they get from that huge engine?
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Actually.. Quite a few competitors have been known to steal ideas. In car shows before the shows the competitors always study the competitions cars. It gives them an idea of hsp and other things. Its not just about copying engineering, its also about telling how good of a car your competition is putting out so you can respond sooner. If you don't think Porsche cares how the vette performs to ensure they can compete your naive.
Even ignoring that some of their competitors in the US still use pushrods, take one look at that engine and realize it has some sort of funky fi thing going. It could very well be unique. GM was one of the first to use hydroformed rails for the car. They also were one of the first to use fuel injection on a production car. Theres more innovation there then you give credit.
That being said... Look at the engine picture here. Look at the silver box on top of the engine bay. GM is doing something really unique here.. Im still not even sure what it is.
Despite what you might think, that engine is really sophisticated and produces more power per pound then almost anything else out there. The tech in it is more amazing then you think. There are plenty of companies that would kill to get a look at the latest c5r block or such. Just because its pushrod doesnt mean it isnt very sophisticated.
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02-23-2007, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by graywolf624
That being said... Look at the engine picture here. Look at the silver box on top of the engine bay. GM is doing something really unique here.. Im still not even sure what it is.
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Intercooler water jacket maybe?
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02-24-2007, 12:00 AM
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Directly on top of the engine though? Thats a real odd spot for it?
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02-24-2007, 01:16 PM
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Of course other comapnies are looking at what the cometitors doe, but I dont think Porsche look at vette and by that think damn we need a big V8 up front and start changing their cars....
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Maybe not.. But as I said.. They sure as hell do care about the performance numbers of the vette versus their car.
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02-24-2007, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by brembo
You are right tough companies do copy, just as vette did after they saw the Opel GT they made their stingray.... 
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This comment might have been funny if Opel weren't a GM subsidiary and the GT not designed after the C3.
See, even the mighty european Opel is nothing other than the euro branch of GM USA.
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02-24-2007, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by everso
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Originally Posted by graywolf624
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Of course other comapnies are looking at what the cometitors doe, but I dont think Porsche look at vette and by that think damn we need a big V8 up front and start changing their cars....
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Maybe not.. But as I said.. They sure as hell do care about the performance numbers of the vette versus their car.
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they really don't, man......The corvette doesn't threaten Porsche in ANY way...they are different classes of cars for absolutely different buying audiences....and in Europe, the Corvette has minimal presence or influence over anyone.
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Thats odd.. this is not what some Porsche insiders have told me and others.
Contrary to what poofta TT drivers think, performance is of primary importance to Porsche.
Their cars must not be slower than anyone elses - ever.
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02-24-2007, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by graywolf624
Directly on top of the engine though? Thats a real odd spot for it?
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Pretty innovative if true then.. right ?
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02-24-2007, 03:25 PM
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they really don't, man......The corvette doesn't threaten Porsche in ANY way...they are different classes of cars for absolutely different buying audiences....and in Europe, the Corvette has minimal presence or influence over anyone.
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Regardless of the which is best arguement there are people cross shopping the ZO6 with the 911. You can say its only the US market, but then you have to realize most companies including porsche know if you don't succeed in the US your car will flop. ITs just too much of a big money market. The magazines themselves have alluded to the market overlap. Porsche, unless they are stupid, must consider the comparison. The interior is different on the corvette, but if you don't think their is market overlap there you have another thing comming.
Theres a reason Porsche now sells an SUV. They dont sell their car in a vacuum and even indirect competitors have to be considered.
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Pretty innovative if true then.. right
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Most definitly.
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02-24-2007, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by everso
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Originally Posted by RC45
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Originally Posted by everso
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Originally Posted by graywolf624
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Of course other comapnies are looking at what the cometitors doe, but I dont think Porsche look at vette and by that think damn we need a big V8 up front and start changing their cars....
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Maybe not.. But as I said.. They sure as hell do care about the performance numbers of the vette versus their car.
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they really don't, man......The corvette doesn't threaten Porsche in ANY way...they are different classes of cars for absolutely different buying audiences....and in Europe, the Corvette has minimal presence or influence over anyone.
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Thats odd.. this is not what some Porsche insiders have told me and others.
Contrary to what poofta TT drivers think, performance is of primary importance to Porsche.
Their cars must not be slower than anyone elses - ever.
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LOL. you don't know anything about Porsche....
did you know the TT was developed AS a Porsche? no you wouldn't know that...
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Thats right - you are the only person on the face of the planet who knows any one.
You are also the onyl person who has any knowledge about various marques.
You are also the only person on the planet who has contacts any where.
You are also a spinelss coward - BTW, how's that arranged marriage working out?
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02-24-2007, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by everso
i can sense PURE JEALOUSY out of you...
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Exactly what would anyone need to be jealous of you for?
We all know you come form a line of privilege and wealth - you have this dream that everyone envies you in your class superior life - no need to remind us. You seem to forget so quickly and easily the few back channel conversations we had - during the time you wanted something from me so you opened up a little... poor spoiled socialite :roll:
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Originally Posted by everso
you old gumpy geezer. Must be tough having a shitty life you need to play video games and making up ideas to get away from...
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Oh - so know interests outside your realm of superiority and social standing suddenly mean people are inferior to your status and life style...
Chap - you're a fucking doctor - not a philosopher - what kind of superiority complex is needed to have such a pompous view on life? :roll:
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Originally Posted by everso
hopefully one day you'll have things to live for....
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Nice try again to try elevate yourself "above the commoners" - I mean we know you spent your time with the low-lifes and now retreat to your superior liberal life of privilege - again - you are a doctor not god.
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Originally Posted by everso
as for my personal life....you aren't worthy to even know what brand toilet paper i use to wipe my ass with...
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You don't just use your left hand?
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Originally Posted by everso
let alone anything more.
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So - how is that arranged marriage working out then?
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p.s. I ma sure EVERYONE on JW is tired of this open feud you have perpetuated in public.
Does that make you feel good?
When are you going to just STFU and let this go and no longer post your jibes that keep the public feud going?
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02-24-2007, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by everso
i do consider myself FAR superior you in every single way...this is true...then again, i'm sure many people consider themself superior to you.
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There you have it folks - this superior being and upper class member of a privileged society has deined to spare a fleeting moment from his superior lifestyle to offer a wave from the ivory tower.
I seem to recall tearful begging emails and messages pleading to not be banned from JW...
That's odd.. a superior being would not need to spend time on a mere pathetic web forum...
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Originally Posted by everso
my beautiful wedding was not arranged...and was fantastic in every single way
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Most arranged wedding are...
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Originally Posted by everso
......every day is...
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Sure it is.... hence the daily visits to this pathetic web forum...
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02-24-2007, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by everso
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Originally Posted by RC45
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Originally Posted by everso
......every day is...
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Sure it is.... hence the daily visits to this pathetic web forum...
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people like YOU do make it pathetic....you really do.
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Yet you begged and pleaded not to get banned.
Interesting.
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Originally Posted by everso
95% of people on here are cool and wanna talk about cars.
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But you know everything about cars - why would you talk to them at ll?
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Originally Posted by everso
you are a psychotic, old, and useless cunt
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Wow - thats not very dignified language... for a supposedly wealthy socialite.
Old? You are only 8 years younger.. wait - thats right - wealthy socialites never age..
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Originally Posted by everso
who treats other members badly, has no class or intelligent perception,
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Interesting - I guess your superior social status is important to you and you are really proving you come from a social plane on which class is everything - you are either born well or are a peasant.
This would explain the arranged marriage then... keep the money and families interbred... must be a difficult thing for a physician to know they are sharing an ever shrinking gene pool.
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Originally Posted by everso
and is simply trying to bide time until your life dwindles into uselessness (if it hasn't already)
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Wow - not only superior, but judgemental and poison-tongued as well. You really are a "great person".
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Originally Posted by everso
i still feel extremely sorry for you....if you get 5% of what i have, you'll be a happy man.
til then.......
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Finally we get to the bottom of the hatred... you think only "rich people of class" have lives worth living.
In one single sentence you insult every single person on JW - for not having "5% of what you have"...
I guess if you are not wealthy, a doctor, have an arranged marriage and don't come from a superior bloodline, you are nothing..
Interesting outlook on life you suffer from.
Anyway, I am really tired of this exchange - so please.. for the love of God and everything sacred.. just fuck off back to your happy life and stop posting crap in this thread... please.
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02-24-2007, 04:39 PM
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oooo! Nice carbon ceramic brakes!
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02-24-2007, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by everso
i love how you need such huge replies to reply to my sharp, succint small statements.
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The replies are the same lenght as yours... I simply choose to break them down - so the simple poor people can understand your superior tounge.
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Originally Posted by everso
I'm glad they get to you...
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They dont get to me.. they get to you - or you wouldn't keep responding - after all your wealth and station in life is so far above the rest of us that you dont need to hang out on JW..
But why did you beg to not get banned then?
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Originally Posted by everso
hopefully they echo inside you like cylinders vibrated by low mhz frequencies of aural destruction.
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You mean like you pitiful excuse for musical talent you dabbled in while in a drunked drugged up stupour?
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Originally Posted by everso
as of now, let's impose a JW ban on YOU being a senseless imbecile. I'm sure that will help...i've never "begged" for anything on here or anywhere else.....
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Not only spineless - but a liar as well.
You BEGGED to not be banned a year or 2 bag----you sent PM's and emails BEGGING to not get banned.
Unless you are now called the site admins liars...
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Originally Posted by everso
for now...even Georgie would tell you to:

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Note how he is using his right hand...
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