had an accident with my porsche on the autobahn...

[harryo2b]

Yeah I hope your chassis is tweaked so then it is unrepairable and you get full value as it is to date. If not and the fenders and wheels are the majority of the damage then that could be very shitty...

Glad you are ok. If it's a goner then it's all the more reason to upgrade!

[davide]

Luckily you are not heart. The damage to the car is easily repaired, had to repair yourself...

glad you are ok!

[jakaracman]

Originally Posted by 666fast Originally Posted by jakaracman Sad to hear it. Alhough, how you managad to dump a modern 911 with ESP at 100kph is a mystery to me ... Unless there was like few cm of standing water on the road ... Here is a test you can do. Get your car up to 100kph and slam on the brakes while jerking the wheel as if to avoid something. ESP won't always save your ass.

Dida that many times (and at higher speeds, too. Never lost it. If ESP didnt catch it completely, I could ...
I've only lost ESP equiped car on snow/ice, on purpose, rocking it left/right.
But that's OT ...

I hope insurance paperwork turns out ok ...

[TT]

Dang, got scared for a moment, but I am happy you're fine.

Not that happy for the car, especially since you put so much effort into creating your own special 911 don't know what to whish... lighter damage than what we think or really big bend to get full money... maybe the latter...

[pzgren]

Originally Posted by mrmojo77 One word; aquaplaning.

i guess that was the problem in that case. i walked back to the place where i had to break. and there was a lot of water on the street. guess i had to break at the wrong place, bad luck....

[pzgren]

No, not yet. the insurance guy should go to my garage today to inspect the car and damages. i really hope they declare it as totalled... keep you informed.

[jakaracman]

Originally Posted by mrmojo77 Originally Posted by jakaracman Originally Posted by 666fast Originally Posted by jakaracman Sad to hear it. Alhough, how you managad to dump a modern 911 with ESP at 100kph is a mystery to me ... Unless there was like few cm of standing water on the road ... Here is a test you can do. Get your car up to 100kph and slam on the brakes while jerking the wheel as if to avoid something. ESP won't always save your ass. Dida that many times (and at higher speeds, too. Never lost it. If ESP didnt catch it completely, I could ... I've only lost ESP equiped car on snow/ice, on purpose, rocking it left/right. But that's OT ... I hope insurance paperwork turns out ok ... One word; aquaplaning. No help from ESP once you're sideways. I have never done aquaplaning with rear wheels, but the front wheels have often lost the touch with the asphalt.

I've driven a 911 at aroun 250 in hevy rain, when it strted to aqaplane it was on wheel for a moment, then another one. Almost imperceptible except slight movement of the car and ESP light lighted ... Nothing an average driver used to high speeds couldnt handle ...

Aquaplaning at 100 kph? In the pics tores look OK, at 100 kph 911 would swim at the rear only if there was like 3 or 5 centimetres of water standing on or running across the road for at least 10 metres. If that was the case on autobahn, then company responsible for maintenace shoul be held liable.

[TT]

Well, at 100 under heavy braking and with weight shifting brutally toward the front, I am sure acquaplaning is possible, even with good tires and proper setup

[stmoritzer]

sorry to hear that pzgren :cry:
just recently I went thru the NS pics and saw your baby on the motorway and NS.

most important you're ok,
let's hope the best about the insurance.

Cheers

[jakaracman]

Originally Posted by TT Well, at 100 under heavy braking and with weight shifting brutally toward the front, I am sure acquaplaning is possible, even with good tires and proper setup

911 has more weight at the back during hard braking than most FWD cars when driving normally ... So they would aquaplane even before 911 ...

[ARMAN]

Man thats sad

Glad you are ok the rest is just a metal even if its 911

[RC45]

Originally Posted by jakaracman Originally Posted by TT Well, at 100 under heavy braking and with weight shifting brutally toward the front, I am sure acquaplaning is possible, even with good tires and proper setup 911 has more weight at the back during hard braking than most FWD cars when driving normally ... So they would aquaplane even before 911 ...

I have a feeling the laws of physics, dynamic weight transfer and the fact this thread is about a 911 smashed into a ditch seems to contradict your opinion that a 911 cannot aquaplane.

[saadie]

lol ..

well .. pz did you happen to lift off instantly when you applied the brake ?

[Pokiou]

hey if the state of the art Veyron aquaplanes im sire a 911 will also !

[acmarttin]

Originally Posted by RC45 Originally Posted by jakaracman Originally Posted by TT Well, at 100 under heavy braking and with weight shifting brutally toward the front, I am sure acquaplaning is possible, even with good tires and proper setup 911 has more weight at the back during hard braking than most FWD cars when driving normally ... So they would aquaplane even before 911 ... I have a feeling the laws of physics, dynamic weight transfer and the fact this thread is about a 911 smashed into a ditch seems to contradict your opinion that a 911 cannot aquaplane.

Damn, RC, I teared up laughing at that.