Porsche News

[flat6]

Hey st-anger, I've read this topic... very much enjoyed it btw ... and I was curious about the "blood sweat and tears", the hard work, that you've obviously put in to getting where you are currently. Obviously it's a dream job for a lot of people, but I guess there's quite a bit of work involved. What kind of training did you have? What kind of path did you pursue in life?

I ask because I'm an engineering student, and I'll be making a couple of life-altering decisions soon. I could either follow a career in automotive engineering (ummm, Porsche ), or become a research scientist, probably in nanotechnology. The latter has been a lifelong pipedream, the former is what I'm currently heading towards in as my engineering specialization.

[TT]

Not 100% sure but I think if you'l read carefully the whole topic, st-anger already explained that.. almost sure it was inside this one good luck

[flat6]

From what I've read of the topic, he was working at Porsche's R&D and racing projects center, then went to Bosch, then back to Porsche, developing various drivetrain and other mechanical stuff for Porsche cars... his current project is with the 955 creating an upgrade a la X50/X73. However, I was hardpressed to find any details about his career/life path, which I looked for almost religiously since I've been very curious about pursuing a career in the automotive field... and have been persuaded by various people that it's not a very likely chance to make it. That's why I'd be very interested in what st-anger has to say. If you know the other topic (or if I missed it in this one!) I'd very much appreciate the link.

[TT]

Ok so maybe it was in some other topic, but I remember he posted all the details about what to do to become a st-anger

[1zippo1]

thx for the GT2 report but didn't the new GT2 have something like 482hp? and not 462 hp? Or are you still talking about the one that has been out for a while? This sounds a bit crazy to critise your expertise but maybe you made a typing mistake or some sort

So I suppose your favorite Porsche list is something like this:
1. cgt
2. GT3 RS
3. GT2
4. GT3
5. Turbo
6. 955TT

[Chingachgook]

Well st-anger, thanks again,now I've learned something more about the GT2...it's fantastic!

Zippo, I agree with you about the fav Porsche list, but in 6th position I put the 993 Turbo. So beautiful to look at,and I hope to drive!! And I'm not a fan of the engine behind the rear wheels, but some cars are too sexy and special, so I MUST go beyond my prejudice

[st-anger]

Originally Posted by 1zippo1 thx for the GT2 report but didn't the new GT2 have something like 482hp? and not 462 hp? Or are you still talking about the one that has been out for a while? This sounds a bit crazy to critise your expertise but maybe you made a typing mistake or some sort So I suppose your favorite Porsche list is something like this: 1. cgt 2. GT3 RS 3. GT2 4. GT3 5. Turbo 6. 955TT

yep, i´ve been drving the "old" GT2 back in 2002...
but i hope there´ll be a chance to drive the "new" one as well this year

when we´re talking about modern Porsche modells you´re 100% right with your list...

[st-anger]

Originally Posted by TT Ok so maybe it was in some other topic, but I remember he posted all the details about what to do to become a st-anger

...to become a st-anger
so here we go, thats what i´ve posted Fri Aug 8th:

....in short, i studied more than half of my life, went to a technical college for mechanical engineering specialized on automotive engineering, after finishing that type of school it`s usually here in austria to attend a professional school. i`ve chosen management because at that time i wanted to run my own company...too much work
so i applyed at a university and i studied mechatronics to achieve my doctor`s degree. after that i worked as a project manager at Magna in the driveline departement www.magnasteyr.com where we were developing parts for the MB 4-Matic and the AWD systems for BMW.
from Dec.1997 to Jul. 2001 i worked at the EZW Weisach for the Porsche AG at their driveline technology departement particularly in the field of all-wheel-drive technology. i went back to austria to marry my gf and stayed there although i`d love to go back to Weissach. this was impossible because of my wife`s work
since Jan.2002 i`m working at Bosch Motronic Bosch Motronic where we`re developing the next generation of common rail fuel injection systems.

i worked for Bosch since Nov. and on Dez. 1st i started working again for PAG, but this time not mainly at the EZW i´m also working at Leipzig and Stuttgart HQ...

so flat six if your´re interested in a career like this i highely recommend you to do just something related to management after your tech. studies, this helps a lot, and again if you´ve any questions left, just ask...

[flat6]

I guess chance-wise, would you say it was hard work and determination that got you where you are now, or did you happen to fall into Porsche (and a CGT no less) by some fortune. I ask because probably every small kid wants to work for Porsche growing up, so that's a lot of mechanical engineers wanting jobs... if I become a mech engineer, what are my chances of working for Porsche AG?

And furthermore, do you know what kind of path one can take in North America? I'm not aware of any professional schools to follow a specialization from a technical college. Here it's a four year undergraduate degree in engineering, specializing in Mechanical (and I guess automotive) engineering. Also, why do you suggest management? Is it really that important for the guy developing engines and chassis for car companies?

[st-anger]

a bit off topic, sorry TT...

well, every time someone asks me that, i´ve only an answer which a teacher gave me:
“do you know why a small country like Austria is under the 6 richest countries in the world without having lot´s of raw materials and only mountains??? …because of that!!!” …and he tapped on his head…

austrian school system is one of the best worldwide and probably one of the most challenging, so definitely YES it´s hard work to become Dr.Dipl.Ing. here. i´ve a good example: i´ll get the job in germany “only” with an Austrian “Ing.” title when at the same time a german applies for the same job job who´s “Dipl. Ing.” from university.
It´s very hard for me to give you advice or tell you what to do to get a good job because i don´t know much about US/GB school system, it´s not the same as here in Austria/Germany, it´s totally different even in Germany compared to Austria, a student from Austria can apply for a job at PAG after tech. College, a German has to attend tech. college AND professional school or university.
so you´ve to be at least “Dipl.Ing.” (= tech. college AND professional school) to get a decent job at PAG, better be Dr.Dipl.Ing. and you can get nearly every job. Of course this takes some time, 5 years mechanical engineering tech.college, 4 years professional school for business and management and another 5 or 6 years to study mechatronics at university.
“Business and management” is only important if you want to be project leader or someone in the top management…

so, i´ve helped deth too on that issue and I think he´s also from the states so maybe he can tell you something more how it looks like in the US after his investigations, he´s a really nice guy and i´m sure he can help you...


here´s a very usefull site for all thoses who want´s to get in contact either with
PEG ( Porsche Engineering Group) Germany or
PES ( Porsche Engineering Service ) USA

Porsche Engineering

write a mail to them and when they can´t help you out, you can pm me…

[flat6]

Thanks a lot for your time. I doubt others mind the discussion, since a lot of people are interested in this career path.

[DMbaseball1604]

Yes I would have to agree, Thanks st-anger!!!

I appreciate it

[st-anger]

Originally Posted by DMbaseball1604 Yes I would have to agree, Thanks st-anger!!! I appreciate it

very nice avatar, it´s been my desktop background for probably two or three months now, i just love that picture...

btw, my pleasure to provide some infos...

[lakatu]

[quote="st-anger"]

looking for an decent and effordable Porsche it´s definitely a good desicion to go for a modell after ´86 because there´s a significant quality/power output/handling difference to the sub ´86 modells

st-anger the information you provide here is incredibly useful and informative. I've just spent the past several days reading old posts.

I have a question about your reply to the post concerning a 1987 911. I am aware of a change in the G50 transmission and increased power but I wasn't aware of any suspension or handling changes from 1987-89 to the 911. Was there any or were you referring to the 964, 993 & 996 being better handling?

Also, it seems that you have either driven or have knowledge about the relative handling differences between the evolution from the 3.2L Carrera to the current 996. I was wondering if you wouldn't mind describing the technical changes and how or why they contributed to the improved cornering abilities and neutrality. Do you know the different NS lap times or estimated relative cornering speeds for the 4 different models? For example, how much faster would a 996 be able to take a corner verses the other models.

Finally, in the U.S. 911's are commonly lowered to "Euro-spec". Do you know what the difference in ride height between the European and the U.S.version of the 1987 3.2L. I know that in the early 70's there was a height difference due to the bumper regulations in the U.S. but I am not sure if that carried over to the 1987 model. If so do you know what type of an impact this had on the U.S. 3.2L's handling capabilities? I read an old Road & Track test conducted in Germany of the 944T and 911 3.2L that seemed to indicate the European version of the 911 handled better than the U.S. version.

Thanks for all the insight and knowledge you've shared on this website.

[Chingachgook]

I've finally read the GT2 test,wow I never thought that car was so quick and really good to drive! I imagined it like a mod version of the Turbo,but I was totally wrong! and now that I think a little bit harder, in a Italian magazine called Auto there was a comparation between the Murcielago and..the GT2! The GT2 was very very good!The engine so strong and the handling so good.