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03-10-2004, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RC45
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Originally Posted by ahmedgiyab
'RC45'...next time be well informed about a topic...(it can be avoided by watching
CNN...  )...don't you know that the media is full of........s?! (they only show
what they want to show...)....I hope you know who they are... 8)
P.S. I'm waiting for your answer about North Korea!  |
The fact that you have avoided every question goes to show you have no basis for fact in anything yousaid. North Korea is not what this topic is about.
Every single member of JW has observed how you spout out nonsense - then when asked to back it up - just redirect the line of questioning - that may be how you "debate" in the UAE - but in the rest of the world we face facts and debate them... but I have watched Al Jazeera before - I know how the Arab mind works to try misdirect from the facts - an old Nomad trick that as no place in the 21st century... |
Hahahahahahaha, you're almost sounding racist, ahahahahahahahahahah
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Originally Posted by Dan\/6
damn speedkillar, if you didnt have a title already it would now say 'robofucker' or similar |
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03-10-2004, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SPEEDKILLAR
but now that Saddy is gone,
there's no need to stay in Iraq is there.
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Originally Posted by jabba
No indeed there isn't and I completely agree with you there. Before anyone mentions about Preemptive strategys being dangerous and in an ideal world they are of course....you have to think 9/11...as they say "the day the world changed forever"
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Originally Posted by SPEEDKILLAR
Thanks Jabba, this is also what I wanted to show to RC45
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Because of the speed of posting I just wanted to make it clear that I don't buy into the oil conspiracy theory at all...I have said its all about 9/11 for me and a preemptive issue.
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03-10-2004, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RC45
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Originally Posted by ahmedgiyab
"RC45"...tell me why do the US need to imort oil...????
Alaska, Texas...enough for the US...I told you check what the Arab World did to
the US in 73...
So you are saying that the US went for the help of the Iraqi people....not for the
oil??? Simply this is the summary of what you said? If so...then no need to go
further in this topic... :roll:
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Again I point you towards the actual oil imports to the USA - The USA provided 45% of it's own oil supplies. The remaining 55% are imported. With ONLY 15% of those imports coming from the Arab world...
You guys are NOT the single most important source for US oil - you are just one of the cheapest.
So lets say that the US invaded Iraq for the oil - now what? Are they going to steal it? Take it for free? This makes no sense... why invade a place and spend 1000000 times more money on aquiring this "secret stash" of oil - than you could by simply buying it someplace other.
Lemme guess - now you going to say that the UK and US are going to steal all the Iraqi oil and never pay for it.
15% that how much oil comes from there... not 15% of US consumption - 15% of US imports - which is 55% of consumption - which is only 8.24% of US consumption... somehow your logic doesn't really hold water does it????
So back we go again to strategic studies - if we are talking about 8.25% of US consumption coming from the Arab world, is suddenly appears that ONE of the reasons for having a peaceful Middle East would be keep the price and supply of 8.25% of oil requirements stable...
However, another great plus would be to put the fear of God into any other fuckheads that get the bright idea to try fly their planes into large buildings killing 4000 people in an act of terrorism.
The terrorists of the world now know, even hiding in caves won't save you from getting killed .... fucking cowards.
Oh and the other plus side - Iraq has a Bill of Rights, a Constitution and an Interim Government that regains 100% control on July 1 2004...
Something that was never a prospect for the last 50 years.
So - why should the UAE be peaceful without dictators and Iraq not? |
Did you know that there are differences between the Arabs and the
Kurds??? The people who were on the streets of Baghdad after capturing Saddam are Kurds...NOT Arabs!!! Its not your business that he was a dictator! Arabs were happy...till the economic sanctios(US)...no medicine, no food, all because of the US...so were the fuck will they have money for chemical weapons??? Think man...satelites can see a matchbox!
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03-10-2004, 01:46 PM
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I think you can't convince an 'relativaly' old person of the truth, too sad.
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Originally Posted by Dan\/6
damn speedkillar, if you didnt have a title already it would now say 'robofucker' or similar |
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03-10-2004, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jabba
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Originally Posted by SPEEDKILLAR
but now that Saddy is gone,
there's no need to stay in Iraq is there.
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Originally Posted by jabba
No indeed there isn't and I completely agree with you there. Before anyone mentions about Preemptive strategys being dangerous and in an ideal world they are of course....you have to think 9/11...as they say "the day the world changed forever"
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Originally Posted by SPEEDKILLAR
Thanks Jabba, this is also what I wanted to show to RC45
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Because of the speed of posting I just wanted to make it clear that I don't buy into the oil conspiracy theory at all...I have said its all about 9/11 for me and a preemptive issue. |
Yes 9/11 was a sad day, but so is Irak, Palestine/Israelli conflict, etc,...
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Originally Posted by Dan\/6
damn speedkillar, if you didnt have a title already it would now say 'robofucker' or similar |
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03-10-2004, 01:49 PM
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North Korea....
Its not the topic??? It has a dictator as well...but the thing is that they don't have
oil...no money...no help...! 8)
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03-10-2004, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ahmedgiyab
Did you know that there are differences between the Arabs and the
Kurds??? The people who were on the streets of Baghdad after capturing Saddam are Kurds...NOT Arabs!!! Its not your business that he was a dictator! Arabs were happy...till the economic sanctios(US)...no medicine, no food, all because of the US...so were the fuck will they have money for chemical weapons??? Think man...satelites can see a matchbox!
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Ah now we get down to the REAL matter - Ethnic hatred.... so it's ok to butcher the unclean peasants ... I get it... OK.. all makes sense now.
You're a Kurd hating Arab...
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03-10-2004, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RC45
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Originally Posted by ahmedgiyab
Did you know that there are differences between the Arabs and the
Kurds??? The people who were on the streets of Baghdad after capturing Saddam are Kurds...NOT Arabs!!! Its not your business that he was a dictator! Arabs were happy...till the economic sanctios(US)...no medicine, no food, all because of the US...so were the fuck will they have money for chemical weapons??? Think man...satelites can see a matchbox!
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Ah now we get down to the REAL matter - Ethnic hatred.... so it's ok to butcher the unclean peasants ... I get it... OK.. all makes sense now.
You're a Kurd hating Arab... |
Lets not start saying things we don't know...
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Originally Posted by Dan\/6
damn speedkillar, if you didnt have a title already it would now say 'robofucker' or similar |
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03-10-2004, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ahmedgiyab
Its not your business that he was a dictator! Arabs were happy...
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What exactly are Kuwaits then ? They seemed pretty pissed off until we marched Saddam out of Kuwait...
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03-10-2004, 01:51 PM
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KURDS are Turkish, Persian, people!!!! They dont speak arabic!!!! Just the Islam is
common!!! Man...you must be really well informed!
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03-10-2004, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SPEEDKILLAR
Hahahahahahaha, you're almost sounding racist, ahahahahahahahahahah
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And the Kurd vs Arab factor pointed out by our UAE contributor is not?
When are all you "oli conspiracy" clowns going to provide some proof of your rantings?
As I have shown - the actual volume of oil that Arab imports represnt is pretty small in the big picture - so where the details of the conspiracy to "steal Iraqi oil"?
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03-10-2004, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jabba
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Originally Posted by ahmedgiyab
Its not your business that he was a dictator! Arabs were happy...
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What exaclty are Kuwaits then ? They seemed pretty pissed off until we marched Saddam out of Kuwait... |
Kuwait used to be part of Iraq long time ago!
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03-10-2004, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ahmedgiyab
KURDS are Turkish, Persian, people!!!! They dont speak arabic!!!! Just the Islam is
common!!! Man...you must be really well informed!
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And this fact means they have less right to slef-government, peace and prosperity? is that because they are viewed as second class people then?
I think we may have struck a nerve here.....
BTW - you ever ging to provide some proof and nformation about your "oil for free" conspiracy?
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03-10-2004, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ahmedgiyab
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Originally Posted by Jabba
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Originally Posted by ahmedgiyab
Its not your business that he was a dictator! Arabs were happy...
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What exaclty are Kuwaits then ? They seemed pretty pissed off until we marched Saddam out of Kuwait... |
Kuwait used to be part of Iraq long time ago! |
So that makes them fair game then I suppose?
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03-10-2004, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RC45
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Originally Posted by SPEEDKILLAR
Hahahahahahaha, you're almost sounding racist, ahahahahahahahahahah
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And the Kurd vs Arab factor pointed out by our UAE contributor is not?
When are all you "oli conspiracy" clowns going to provide some proof of your rantings?
As I have shown - the actual volume of oil that Arab imports represnt is pretty small in the big picture - so where the details of the conspiracy to "steal Iraqi oil"? |
Everyone thinks like this: Arabs=Kurds=Persians=Afghanis
Just to make it clear...never said that I have anything against Kurds!!!
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