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Ghostbat · 02-22-2006, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by RC45

Originally Posted by Ghostbat

A downloadable video of the Enzo crash at Pacific Coast Highway.

http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2T...K3NTV9OW2BA4AJ

(left click the link)

I wonder who this Swede is btw. Haven't heard of him before.

This Erikson

Code:

24 Heures 2005 - Circuit : 13.65 km   

Ferrari 360 Modena GTC  N°92 Cirtek Motorsport 

Technic : 
Class : LMGT2
Engine : V8 Ferrari 3586 cm3
Tyres : Dunlop 

 
Drivers : 
Joe Macari   
Stephan Eriksson   
Robert Wilson     
 

No picture available 

Results : 
Race : Retirement :
Distance : 2975,7 km - 218 lap(s)
Average speed : 158,256 km/h
Perte de roue  Qualifications : 45th
Time : 4'20"873
Average speed : 188,368 km/h

According to swedish newspaper he's some sort of businessman. Also a german (the driver) is supposed to have fled the scene after the crash follwoing the race with the SLR. Speed was 192km/h. I have more faith in RC:s buddies at the vette forum.

No.1 · 02-22-2006, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by RC45

This Erikson

Code:

24 Heures 2005 - Circuit : 13.65 km   

Ferrari 360 Modena GTC  N°92 Cirtek Motorsport 

Technic : 
Class : LMGT2
Engine : V8 Ferrari 3586 cm3
Tyres : Dunlop 

 
Drivers : 
Joe Macari   
Stephan Eriksson   
Robert Wilson     
 

No picture available 

Results : 
Race : Retirement :
Distance : 2975,7 km - 218 lap(s)
Average speed : 158,256 km/h
Perte de roue  Qualifications : 45th
Time : 4'20"873
Average speed : 188,368 km/h

Nice digging RC 8)

Seems to make sense that he drove a car thats from the UK - Macari is a well known character in the supercar trade and also on the Gumball Rally.

http://www.joemacari.com

Macari also sold an Enzo fairly recently iirc - he had had it ons tock for a while - maybe this was it :bah:

StanAE86 · 02-22-2006, 06:29 PM

http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_052110615.html

(not sure if it's the same video...but it's the same wreck on PCH):

Ahh...good old Dietrich again...I think he's the same guy that is responsible for all the stolen vehicles which are then reported to insurance, by Ricers. That and the recent plethera of arsoned SUVs after the gas prices went up in the US.

Damn it Dietrich...why the ENZO??? :cry: WHYYYYY??

coloradosilver · 02-22-2006, 07:05 PM

Weird...loosing control of an Enzo at 120mph? That driver must have really been incompetent. This car should be totally stable at that speed, like driving any normal car at 50 mph.

Next: Things to smile about:

1) Another person that has more money than brains doesn't get to have his Enzo anymore, and he's out whatever he paid for it.

2) Driving recklessly like this should always be punished severely as it is irresponsible, dangerous, reckless, and dipslays a lack of concern for the safety for other motorists. He got what he deserved.

3) The Mercedes won in the end.

RC45 · 02-22-2006, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by coloradosilver

Weird...loosing control of an Enzo at 120mph? That driver must have really been incompetent. This car should be totally stable at that speed, like driving any normal car at 50 mph.

Actually any car cresting a brow and getting light will be a handful - especially a car without wings for aero that relies on underbody venturi style aerodynamics.. after all, the downforce only exists of the car is close to the ground not when it gets light over a crest.

This is an example of Formula 1 technology that doesn't work in the real world.. which is why the Enzo sucks around the Nurburgring..

Unlike the CGT that DOES have wing aero effects for this type of event..

Plus one for the ricer-style rear wing

hehe

Originally Posted by coloradosilver

Next: Things to smile about:

1) Another person that has more money than brains doesn't get to have his Enzo anymore, and he's out whatever he paid for it.

2) Driving recklessly like this should always be punished severely as it is irresponsible, dangerous, reckless, and dipslays a lack of concern for the safety for other motorists. He got what he deserved.

3) The Mercedes won in the end.

Supposedly a race car driver, so maybe it just wasn't his day

StanAE86 · 02-22-2006, 07:33 PM

No...it was Dietrich driving...see the news clip:

http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_052110615.html

I suspect, even with a big wing, once you catch air at 120mph, you're gonna have some white knuckle time coming up really fast...

Too bad about the Enzo, but great technology put to use in keeping the occupants alive...

I dig that Ebay auction...hillarious comments and questions to the seller...

SilviaEvo · 02-22-2006, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by bmagni

i agree with RC about the bump, its too damn straight for something else happening....

if im not wrong this is the enzo tht crashed, the black one is for the wife...

so his wife now walks i presume? hahaha damn what a retard

nthfinity · 02-22-2006, 07:34 PM

^^^^
RC, i would go one step further... ground effect is MUCH greater when the car is closer to the ground, and more flat paralelle to it... a stiffer suspension that is lower will yield much higher levels of d/f...

when cresting, your front d/f has to be greater then the net upforce created by the momentum of going up the hill... and i think we can accurately calculate how fast he was driving if we know a few things...
where the suspension was set to (ride hight)
the angle of the hill in question

with that, we can determine a minimum velocity required to lift...

well, also, we have the trajectories... but im less interested in that

RC45 · 02-22-2006, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by StanAE86

No...it was Dietrich driving...see the news clip:

http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_052110615.html

I suspect, even with a big wing, once you catch air at 120mph, you're gonna have some white knuckle time coming up really fast...

Too bad about the Enzo, but great technology put to use in keeping the occupants alive...

I dig that Ebay auction...hillarious comments and questions to the seller...

Well - I don't know about air at 120... but I was caught out by some sand on the road last summer - a long stretch that tempted one to try the long legs of 4th gear, and my full throttle 4th to 5th shift unluckily happened at the moment I crossed the patch of dried dirt - the rear wheels spun up and Active Handling kicked in keeping us on the straight and narrow - that was white knuckle (and arse-puckering) good times

But the key is that all 4 tyres are on the ground and Actice Handling has something to act on.. brakes can have an effect of stopping you fishtailing into an oversteer spinout - when you are really light and tyres are almost not touching, an Active Handling system doesn't have much to work with... at that moment you really need Active Aerodynamics..

tanelvali · 02-23-2006, 02:34 AM

thnx for a downloadable file. if anyone has some more media about this, please post..

novass · 02-23-2006, 02:43 AM

The owner of The Auto Gallery came into our shop yesterday and this was brought up. He said the guy has come into their place numerous times bragging about doing 140+ on the road. It wouldnt surprise me if there was a SLR there during some part of it, he just may have had some more brains than this guy. That area is notorious for people racing/driving fast and many rich folk live out there. Its a good area to spot supercars.

Toronto · 02-23-2006, 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by StanAE86

No...it was Dietrich driving...see the news clip:

http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_052110615.html

I suspect, even with a big wing, once you catch air at 120mph, you're gonna have some white knuckle time coming up really fast...

Too bad about the Enzo, but great technology put to use in keeping the occupants alive...

I dig that Ebay auction...hillarious comments and questions to the seller...

Dietrich isn't a real person, Die + rich

fsandys · 02-23-2006, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by corvettekid

a piece of it is already for sale on e-bay. check out the comments at the bottom they're hilarious

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=8040875409

I hope they don't just scrap it like any normal car! There are a million uses for the parts, and, with eBay as your tool, bet you could make a bit of the value back!!

nthfinity · 02-23-2006, 04:45 AM

well.... think about it this way

lets say erikson is able to claim insurance on his wreaked enzo... when they give him the check, every single piece of the wreaked car is now the insurance company's... which means any 'lost' pieces on ebay potentially become criminal if sold :roll: i doubt they'd go after people selling a 8" hose, tho

hamlet · 02-23-2006, 05:18 AM

Pretty tough acident but it seems that the safety shell played its role and it is always good to hear that the driver is OK. But sad to see another Enzo ruined... :puppydogeyes: