12-12-2007, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nthfinity
755 hp with 2800 or less lbs should be much faster then the low 10's is all that I'm saying. The speakers in the back speak volumes ... ahahahaha, get it? Volumes? LOL
(BTW, I love these "arguments" with you pagani )
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It's a discussion forum after all.
I posted the picture whit the speakers to show it's a real street car.
The problem is he is running the stock gearbox whit a stronger gears.
And he will need a rollcage if wants to run faster than 10 second passed at the strip what a harder this would run a 9 second pass at the strip.
Btw the engine is a four piston yb cosworth engine.
It's has welded up stock diff's.
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12-12-2007, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pagani
It's a discussion forum after all.
I posted the picture whit the speakers to show it's a real street car.
The problem is he is running the stock gearbox whit a stronger gears.
And he will need a rollcage if wants to run faster than 10 second passed at the strip what a harder this would run a 9 second pass at the strip.
Btw the engine is a four piston yb cosworth engine.
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I didnt see the air conditioner on in that image.
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12-12-2007, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RC45
I didnt see the air conditioner on in that image.
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I'don't kown if it has ac i doubt it.
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12-12-2007, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pagani
I'don't kown if it has ac i doubt it.
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Then it is not really a Frod Escort street car is it It is a purpose-built show-off car with a big stereo.
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12-12-2007, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RC45
Then it is not really a Frod Escort street car is it It is a purpose-built show-off car with a big stereo.
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No it's not a show car it's a street car
I showed the speakers to show it's real street car i don't kown it he still has the ice setup.
Do show cars run low 10 second passed at the dragstrip?
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12-12-2007, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by pagani
No it's not a show car it's a street car
I showed the speakers to show it's real street car i don't kown it he still has the ice setup.
Do show cars run low 10 second passed at the dragstrip?
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Is there a time slip for thi supposed low 10s time? Or was that "estimated" based on ho whard it pulled on a parade lap?
That is a car capable of being driven on the streets (I have to wonder how legally) but it is not a street car.
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12-12-2007, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RC45
Then it is not really a Frod Escort street car is it It is a purpose-built show-off car with a big stereo.
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RC, I'm with you most of the times here, but this doesn't make any sense
You're saying cars without aircon can not be called street cars? Then I think well over half of the cars driving around Europe don't qualify as street cars. We don't get SoCal temperatures here remember..
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12-12-2007, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Svensson
RC, I'm with you most of the times here, but this doesn't make any sense
You're saying cars without aircon can not be called street cars? Then I think well over half of the cars driving around Europe don't qualify as street cars. We don't get SoCal temperatures here remember..
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Thats only because half the cars in europe are entry level 1.1l diesel rustbuckets with barely enough power to get to 60km/h, and could not handle the extra drag of an A/C compressor.
Southern California is not really one of the places I think of when needing air conditioning
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12-12-2007, 07:45 PM
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^ I get the point, but I still don't see why an Escort without A/C is not a street car. Especially in freezing Scandinavia. I liked your heat soak arguments better
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12-12-2007, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Svensson
^ I get the point, but I still don't see why an Escort without A/C is not a street car. Especially in freezing Scandinavia. I liked your heat soak arguments better
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Well - I mean if the car came with A/C then it should keep it of course... but I really wonder about cars thatare "claimed to be street cars" but are not..
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12-12-2007, 11:13 PM
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Here is your proof.
Engine bay
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Even without running the car you can easily tell it will suffer from heat issues. Look at the location of the turbo and the lack of insullation near it as compared to the metal engine. Your friend has even heat shielded the body on the side of the turbo. Which means if he's as into power as you say he is, even he knows that suckers going to put off some heat. Id dare say he suspects it could even get hot enough to melt the inside of that engine bay. Now what do you think that high heat will do to that metal block right next to the turbo? After a few laps that entire underhood area will be so hot he will lose significant power.
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12-13-2007, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by pagani
Maby a bottle of oxigen is needed on a turbo or supercharged car
Btw did you kown that you can get pump fuel here in europe that has the same rating as most racefuel 102 octane to be precise.
Some cars here run on race fuel because it helps whit detantion and they can run more boost at the dragstrip or road course.
And run a diffrent map when they drive on the street and on pump fuel.
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Running without early detonation and ping is all fine and good but has little to do with heating issues.
A math professor at my school helped develop one of the first active timing retardation systems among other common tuner electronic goodies to address such issues..
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12-13-2007, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RC45
Is there a time slip for thi supposed low 10s time? Or was that "estimated" based on ho whard it pulled on a parade lap?
That is a car capable of being driven on the streets (I have to wonder how legally) but it is not a street car.
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Here is your proof matey boy.
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12-13-2007, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pagani
Here is your proof matey boy.
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A YouTube is not a timeslip ... the car could have had drag radials, race fuel etc etc.
I signed timeslip from the track is proof..
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12-13-2007, 12:39 PM
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A 60 ft. of 1.69 is nearly impossible w/out VERY sticky rubber...
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