Porsche 918 Spyder in motion

[turpija]

you are correct but damn those porsche guys get some nice pussies

[nthfinity]

Originally Posted by F250 Let's see, here's a list of some of the new 2007 Kirkham 427 Cobra replica

Those Kirkham's sure are nice

[marcefer]

Originally Posted by F250 2005 Ford F250 Powerstroke FX-4 pickup I also have a Ducati 999S sitting in my garage. I like coming up behind Porsche drivers on mountain roads with the F250. It's got a Go Industries Rancher grill guard and scares the hell out of them until I pass.

Some of your car choices were fantastic, but F250 + 999S is quite an awkward combination.
Selling Porsches had some consequences ?

[F250]

Originally Posted by marcefer Some of your car choices were fantastic, but F250 + 999S is quite an awkward combination. Selling Porsches had some consequences ?

I live in Cody, Wyoming. An F250 Powerstroke FX4 is almost a requirement. I can carry over a ton in the bed and conventional tow 12,500 lbs or 15,000 lbs with a fifth wheel. It also gets me to just about anywhere I want to go off road. All that capability with better mileage than an F150 FX4.

Unless you've driven a 7,200 lb truck with 570 lb.ft. of torque, you don't know what you're missing.

[tforth]

Originally Posted by F250 I live in Cody, Wyoming. An F250 Powerstroke FX4 is almost a requirement. I can carry over a ton in the bed and conventional tow 12,500 lbs or 15,000 lbs with a fifth wheel. It also gets me to just about anywhere I want to go off road. All that capability with better mileage than an F150 FX4. Unless you've driven a 7,200 lb truck with 570 lb.ft. of torque, you don't know what you're missing.

I'm sure it's all that you say it is regarding it's intended purpose, but do we really need to debate how it would perform against a Porsche?

Speaking of dud Porsche drivers (and there are many); for every one of those, I see plenty of pick-up trucks carrying lots of air or snow (depending on location) most of the time. Personally, for when I need one (very rarely in my case), I'll rent one and enjoy the benefits of a much lower centre of gravity for 99.9% of the time that I drive.

More North Americans should respect the use of energy more of the time. I like to accelerate hard, just not all the time. In something big (and shaped like a brick) and heavy, you waste fuel all of the time, not just when you require the utility.

I imagine that it makes sense where you live, just not where most pick-up truck drivers live.

Lastly, it sure was interesting to see what happened a couple of years ago (when fuel prices spiked) in the states, with all of the chest beater pick-up drivers:

...after 17 consecutive years of the F-series pick-up claiming the No. 1 vehicle sales position,

it went to.... a Honda Civic . Now, where in the h_ll did they find room for the gun rack ?

[F250]

Originally Posted by tforth More North Americans should respect the use of energy more of the time. I like to accelerate hard, just not all the time. In something big (and shaped like a brick) and heavy, you waste fuel all of the time, not just when you require the utility. Now, where in the h_ll did they find room for the gun rack ?

Don't even start with that Al Gore global warming save the whales bullshit. The free market does a fine job of regulating the use of energy. I'll drive what I want when I want where I want and do not need some Canadian socialist half my age preaching to me.

By the way, I drive my F250 around empty most of the time.

The eco system is all about balance. When I drive my F250 and burn barrels of oil every mile, I balance out 43.7 eco-weenies driving Piouses - I mean Priuses.

I don't have a rifle rack. I open carry a semi auto and concealed carry a back up 24/7. My AR 15 fits nicely in the back seat of my Mach 1.

[nthfinity]

I had it as my 'sig' for a long time, but when gas prices spiked, and the global markets collapsed in 2008, F150 sales dropped about 21%, while Prius sales dropped about 48%.

[tforth]

Originally Posted by F250 Don't even start with that Al Gore global warming save the whales bullshit. The free market does a fine job of regulating the use of energy. I'll drive what I want when I want where I want and do not need some Canadian socialist half my age preaching to me. By the way, I drive my F250 around empty most of the time. The eco system is all about balance. When I drive my F250 and burn barrels of oil every mile, I balance out 43.7 eco-weenies driving Piouses - I mean Priuses. I don't have a rifle rack. I open carry a semi auto and concealed carry a back up 24/7. My AR 15 fits nicely in the back seat of my Mach 1.

Hey, you're the one who brought up the issue of people not driving cars the way the way they were intended/designed... What's good for the goose...

Who cares about Al Gore... and just like all Americans aren't Republican (or at least I thought Obama wasn't ), all Canadians aren't socialist...

Rather, I'm agreeing with your premise in that Porsche driver's won't realize half their investment if they don't drive their car @ 10/10 (preferably on a track), and pick-up truck owners are wasting all kinds of things if they don't use their vehicle as it was designed/intended.

Does this not make sense, or this a 'Canadian' thing that only 'we' understand .

[F250]

Originally Posted by tforth Hey, you're the one who brought up the issue of people not driving cars the way the way they were intended/designed... What's good for the goose... Who cares about Al Gore... and just like all Americans aren't Republican (or at least I thought Obama wasn't ), all Canadians aren't socialist... Rather, I'm agreeing with your premise in that Porsche driver's won't realize half their investment if they don't drive their car @ 10/10 (preferably on a track), and pick-up truck owners are wasting all kinds of things if they don't use their vehicle as it was designed/intended. Does this not make sense, or this a 'Canadian' thing that only 'we' understand .

I brought up idiot Porsche drivers. They are idiots. All of them. In the United States of America, idiots with enough money can buy Porsches and drive them any way they want. And, I am completely within my rights to mock the hell out of them.

I don't care if Porsche drivers drive their cars a certain way. I don't care if you think I'm wasting resources by driving an empty diesel truck. In fact, I drive an empty diesel truck just to piss off people with the temerity to tell me what I should be doing for the good of humanity or the planet.

In case you haven't realized, waste is at the top of Maslow's hierarchy. What the hell do you think self-actualization is?

If you have enough money, you can drive what you want however you want. When you don't have enough money and can't afford $5.00 / gallon fuel, you conveniently become an eco-weenie and use your new found environmentalism to excuse your pathetic miniature and gay mode of transportation.

[tforth]

Originally Posted by F250 I brought up idiot Porsche drivers. They are idiots. All of them. In the United States of America, idiots with enough money can buy Porsches and drive them any way they want. And, I am completely within my rights to mock the hell out of them. I don't care if Porsche drivers drive their cars a certain way. I don't care if you think I'm wasting resources by driving an empty diesel truck. In fact, I drive an empty diesel truck just to piss off people with the temerity to tell me what I should be doing for the good of humanity or the planet. In case you haven't realized, waste is at the top of Maslow's hierarchy. What the hell do you think self-actualization is? If you have enough money, you can drive what you want however you want. When you don't have enough money and can't afford $5.00 / gallon fuel, you conveniently become an eco-weenie and use your new found environmentalism to excuse your pathetic miniature and gay mode of transportation.

Well, according to your theory, I guess that there were a lot of Americans who didn't have enough money to afford $5/g of gas a couple of years ago, and traded in 17 yrs. of precedent with the F-series truck, for a... Japanese designed car (the Honda Civic).

Do you consider that a 'gay mode of transportation'? Does that make them all gay by association, as well. Next, they'll all be heading up here to get married .

[F250]

Originally Posted by tforth Well, according to your theory, I guess that there were a lot of Americans who didn't have enough money to afford $5/g of gas a couple of years ago, and traded in 17 yrs. of precedent with the F-series truck, for a... Japanese designed car (the Honda Civic). Do you consider that a 'gay mode of transportation'? Does that make them all gay by association, as well. Next, they'll all be heading up here to get married .

I have absolutely no problem with gays driving their Hondas to Canada and getting married. Where do you think "Brokeback Mountain" was filmed?

[tforth]

Originally Posted by F250 I have absolutely no problem with gays driving their Hondas to Canada and getting married. Where do you think "Brokeback Mountain" was filmed?

Great example :

1. Brokeback Mountain is an American storey (see below), and not Canadian
2. It is portrayed to be in (of all places ) Wyoming (again see below)
3. There is no civic to be found in the movie, just... pick-up trucks

excerpt from Wikipedia:

Brokeback Mountain is the story of ranch hand Ennis del Mar (Heath Ledger) and rodeo cowboy Jack Twist (Jake Gyllenhaal), two men who fall in love on the fictional Brokeback Mountain in Wyoming in 1963.

You truly are the most entertaining blogger that I've come across here . So far, my favourite line of yours is:

"I brought up idiot Porsche drivers. They are idiots. All of them."

Not exactly the most poignant description you would expect to read on a car enthusiast forum .

[pitfield]

Originally Posted by tforth Well, according to your theory, I guess that there were a lot of Americans who didn't have enough money to afford $5/g of gas a couple of years ago, and traded in 17 yrs. of precedent with the F-series truck, for a... Japanese designed car (the Honda Civic). Do you consider that a 'gay mode of transportation'? Does that make them all gay by association, as well. Next, they'll all be heading up here to get married .

The whole I'm free to be an ignoramus and drive my pick up truck all day long thing is getting a bit tired isn't it?