Bugatti Standing Start Video

[RC45]

Let's try this again - but try leave the personel insults and vendettas out of this time - everso and co.

http://www.dpccars.com/car-movies/05...rontakeoff.htm

Originally Posted by everso SWT: you are just outright clueless my friend. pick up a book about racing history, heritage, and legacy before you start spewing nonsense. I nearly spit water ouf of my mouth when i read that you think Saleen and Nismo compare to Bugatti....LMAO! and i don't know WHY the lame ass overdiscussed Z06 lump-o-plastic is being discussed in this thread. This is about the Bugatti Veyron.....it's not a thread for fanboy discussions about a Vette. Take this crap to the American Muscle section.

Was there a reason you decided to be a total arse and make this into an argument that didn't exist? Wow - simply wow - if you you want to participate , stick to the topic "Bugatti standing Start"..

Originally Posted by bmwpower i think World is now turningaround corvette, in every topic is z06

Hopefully you can admit to WHO turned this into an agrgument around that topic content.

Now back to what JoeHahn and I had going.

Originally Posted by JoeHahn Originally Posted by RC45 Originally Posted by JoeHahn Originally Posted by RC45 Originally Posted by JoeHahn Isnt that a similar argument people make on American sports cars, more generally the Z06? Look where that got them. I dont think this car has been tested on any track, officially or unofficially. Kinda useless debating about it. WTF? How did you come to this conclusion? Well when it comes down to it, alot of people before the Z06 came out reckoned Corvettes handled like shit, alot of people still think that. You, valiantly defend that. Now you are on the other side of the fence accusing a car you think cant handle - when you really dont know how it handles. Uhm - no people simply SAY the certain cars cannot handle - the truth is many cars do handle very well, as shown by many many road tests, races and weekend warriors - this is not heresay or rumour it is fact - measures and proven many times over. No debate can be entered into this at all . It is irrefutable, just as the performance of the GT3 and 360CS is irrefutable. People have just chosen to NOT believe the many published results. So - now on to the Bugnasty Vagrant - many testers have stated the car is heavy and not nimble - this we know is a fact - not rumour. Certain people have also had some inside witnesses tell them the car is not a great handler. The fact that there is no track handling laptime available is obviously because it is not a great handling car. If the million dollar car was a great handler - magazines would have shown this to be true by now. Period. VW/Bugnasty/Audi would already have a Nurburgring time published and be rubbing it in the faces of other supercars if it was any good Originally Posted by JoeHahn Originally Posted by RC45 In a straight line Only. This is what every one used as a reason to hate on ALL high-hp cars Just an observation. And again - for 1 million bucks you would hope it could do something well There - you just helped me with my cause How have I helped your cause. The only data available shows the Vagrant is only straightline toy. However - there is much data available to show the GT3, 360CS, Ford GT, GT2, P911TT, Viper GTS/ACR, CGT etc are great handling cars. No speculation needed - these are published and PROVEN facts. The Bugnasty is just an expensive freeway cruiser. With no published facts backing up an claims to great handling. None. I'm aware of the performance of the C6 Z, GT3 RS and CS but I cant get one thing. I know how alot of people attack Ferrari because it hasnt proven its Enzo on the Nurburgring, does that make it substandard? It may not be as fast as say a Carrera GT but thats nothing to be ashamed of. Have you thought that maybe Bugatti just doesnt want its car compared to the Carrera GT, Zonda F etc and not participating at the Nurburgring is a reason for that? kind of like the Enzo? I'd also like to see an article saying the Veyron is "not nimble". We all know the car is heavy but I'm pretty sure I've only seen magazines saying the opposite. Something along the lines of it hiding and not showing its weight its that good a handling car.

The point is that while the Enzo may not have a Nurburgring time, it has many magazine and other tester times and PROOF of great handling prowess.

And saying "it hides the weight well" is how you say "this car is a bucket of shit when it comes to handling" but you have been told by your editor not to write the truth

I am gettign the feeling the Vagrant fanboys are really easily offended.