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11-05-2003, 12:18 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Retro Muscle
2005 Stang
2003 Thunderbird
2004 Chevy SSR
2004 Marauder
I'll add more tomorrow when Im not so tired. lol
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11-05-2003, 01:08 AM
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Location: Texas
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Some more than others - the T-Bird and Marauder are kind of weak (pathetic engines - have driven both and was vey disappointed) - the SSR is a great idea executed in the classic "stupid GM" way with an engine that is too pathetic to get out of it's own way.
Even though I dislike Fords (I have had 3 Lincolns - and regretted each one - I am a slow learner ) The Retro-Mustang does it for me - I think I may be dumb enough to buy one
The pictures of the Retro-Z28 that are floating around the Net are awesome...
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11-05-2003, 01:08 AM
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Location: Florida
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voted miss instead of terrible miss because there are many idiots in the world. They will earn some money, but they ALL suck. Yes, even the mustang. There was another mustang consept I liked much better. That just looks ugly, the front headlights suck. Sorry to be so mean, but it is all true.
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11-05-2003, 01:12 AM
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Location: Hellaware USA
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Big miss on all. I've ridden in the a preproduction SSR, I agree with the above. The maurauder and tbird are name cars only, nothing really all that special about either.
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11-05-2003, 01:17 AM
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i like the new mustang and the z28 look. designers really tho need to start accauly drvinig their cars. most cars of today lack a true fun driving experince. they arnt tourque monsters if its rwd it has traction control you cant turn off no possi unit it sucks. what ever happend to everyday cars with personality. now their is no diffrence between cars its either fwd rwd or awd but most everything feels the same. sure some profomace cars stand out but what desingers really need to do before they try and make another damn car is accauly drive one for the pleausre of driving. i hate the fact some college educatied penicle pusher who has never driven on a track always driven some little economy car is design sports cars .
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11-05-2003, 05:29 AM
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Location: KILLA KALI
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camaro is tight I have clips of the 05 stang started and and standing though sounds good , sorry no links but I can send it if you can host it here!
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11-05-2003, 12:15 PM
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Location: Seattle, Washington
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2005 stang is the only one i think looks good. If they clean up the lines in the nose it would be badass...
The Most popular years of the thunderbird was when it was a 4 seater image car with no real performance to speak of. You would think that Ford would learn from history.
SSR is a nice concept, and there are alot of touches that show that Chevy has been paying attention to what the aftermarket is doing. But it looks to... feminine with all those soft curves.
The Marauder is a half assed attempt and most people will confuse it for a crown victoria.
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11-05-2003, 04:52 PM
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Location: Santa Clarita, CA, USA
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That Camaro was designed by a kid i believe, hes a 17 yr old Camaro fanatic. And he designed what he hope GM would make the new Camaros look lilke.
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11-05-2003, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by blah
That Camaro was designed by a kid i believe, hes a 17 yr old Camaro fanatic. And he designed what he hope GM would make the new Camaros look lilke.
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Well - not quite - but close enough.
The "kid" is a young designer Kris Horton and he has published some pretty nice designs and ideas.
No-one has claimed the retro Camaro to be official..
As much as I hate GM as a company and dealer network, I have always loved the look of the '69 Camaro, and LOVE Kris Horton's rendition of the timeless style of the '69 Camaro.
I had the opportunity to drive in one (a '69 Camaro Vert) a while back - boy is the dream NOTHING like the reality though - I always imagined having a'69 Camaro as a daily driver would be cool - but I don't thinks so.. LOL
When I think "60's Muscle - I think '69 ZL1 Camaro' - when I think Hot Rod history and Heritage, I think Corvette.
GM needs to grow some balls and make a car like this.. screw the new GTO..
Popular Hot Rodding first brought young designer Kris Horton to the attention of PHR readers back in the September 2003 issue with his eye-popping rendition of a fifth-generation Camaro. Adorned with Hugger orange paint and a wild pair of SS stripes, then stuffed with a modern fuel-injected Gen III powertrain, Horton's imaginary future Camaro quickly turned into the most talked-about PHR story in recent memory.
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http://www.popularhotrodding.com/fea...ifth_Reloaded/
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11-05-2003, 08:42 PM
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GM doesnt have any balls left. After they made the Metro LSi everything went down hill. Im suprised they havent SSed the Metro yet. I can see it now Metro SS, now with over 120 Horses, and 110 Lbs of Torque. GM needs to scrap the GTO plan, and bring back the F-Bodies, but this time push the V-6 Version like ford does with its mustang, like ive said before.
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11-05-2003, 08:55 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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I agree that Camaro looks absolutely stunning, but I think it may be too late. They announced 2002 as the last year for Camaros, so I dont think it will be coming back, especially in the 2005-6 area. They were making a new vehicle, I'll find some pics and post it.
Ford 427 Concept (dont like the car, but i love the engine)
Here it is, the chevy SS will probably replace the camaro. (looks like an RX8 IMO)
Ford GT (cant believe I left it out)
Dodge Charger Concept (as posted in another thread)
2004 Pontiac GTO
Thats all I could think of, If you have more pics please post them.
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11-05-2003, 09:21 PM
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The Mustang concept is quite good, I like it....counting that I hate muscle cars...
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11-05-2003, 09:21 PM
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The Mustang concept is quite good, I like it....counting that I hate muscle cars...but the others all suck and should be thrown to the crapper...
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11-05-2003, 09:35 PM
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I never saw that GTO until now. I think it looks like a Grand-Am with a 350 in it. This isnt bad performance wise, but I think they should've tried a lot harder on the looks of the vehicle. Its just way too plain. The SS as Im sure many will agree looks like an RX8, the charger needs to be a 2 door, and teh 427 needs to take the engine out of there and put it into the mustang. lol I love the new stang. The T-Bird I think would be a lot of fun if it was heavily modified for racing since its V8 RWD, but stock i think it would be boring. The Marauder could use about 70 more HP, and it DEFFINITELY needs a manual gearbox, other than that I like the idea of a big powerful car. The SSR is way too girly IMO. The FOrd GT though is absolutely perfect. I have never seen such a beautiful and functional car in my life, I hope they dont change a thing and make a larger production run. Thats my 2 cents.
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11-05-2003, 09:47 PM
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Location: Texas
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Sadly the Ford 427 will never be - Ford, in their wisdom decided to go with the Ford 500.. powered - or rather UNDER-powered with a FWD 3 liter V6
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