03-16-2005, 06:49 AM
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FIA close BAR loophole
F1's governing body has closed a two-race engine rule 'loophole' exploited by BAR in Melbourne. An FIA spokesman said 'a distinction will now be made' between an accidental DNF and a BAR-like decision to park healthy cars on the final lap.
As the clarification came post-Melbourne, it is not believed Jenson Button or Takuma Sato would be penalised for running a fresh engine in Malaysia.
But the FIA spokesman insisted that, should a BAR-like anomaly be identified in the future, 'we will require the team ... to explain the circumstances of the retirement.'
Meanwhile, joining Toyota in criticising BAR and the loophole, are Sauber technical director Willy Rampf and Renault's Pat Symonds. "It is not good for the sport," said Rampf, "or the spectator." Pat Symonds branded the loophole 'ridiculous.'
http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=79839
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03-16-2005, 07:38 AM
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hahaha, atleast they acted quickly.
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03-16-2005, 09:45 AM
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Hmm. I didnt realise they could change the rules after the season had started or, 'make it up as they go along' as we say in the UK 
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03-16-2005, 03:00 PM
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lol, the FIA really needs to sort its act out.
The issue of cars pulling over on say the lap before the end of the race to change an engine if they weren't in the points came up almost as soon as they started speculating about the new rules.
The FIA knew about this loophole and basically said it was ok....
But now they have actually seen it happen they've changed the rules....
They could have done that 6 months ago.... they need a kick up the arse to be honest
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03-16-2005, 03:09 PM
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I think it is still a stupid rule.........it is very easy to fake an engine failure, or make the driver to crash the car.
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03-16-2005, 03:20 PM
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Re: FIA close BAR loophole
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Originally Posted by |Nuno|
'we will require the team ... to explain the circumstances of the retirement.'
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hahaha... what an idiot!!! and he expects that the team will tell him the truth: "oh, yes, our engines blew up in the pit lane, but just a little bit so that's why you don't see any smoke coming out from our cars"
again I say the engine per 2 races rule is dumb, it was a better idea the old rule of one engine all the weekend, and if you change it... go down 10 places in the grid
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Originally Posted by 5vz-fe
it is very easy to fake an engine failure, or make the driver to crash the car.
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the driver will only have the job to put the car into 1° gear... give all the gas, don't change the gear and wait for the engine to blow
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03-16-2005, 04:27 PM
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Re: FIA close BAR loophole
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Originally Posted by insane
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Originally Posted by antonioledesma
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Originally Posted by |Nuno|
'we will require the team ... to explain the circumstances of the retirement.'
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hahaha... what an idiot!!! and he expects that the team will tell him the truth: "oh, yes, our engines blew up in the pit lane, but just a little bit so that's why you don't see any smoke coming out from our cars"
again I say the engine per 2 races rule is dumb, it was a better idea the old rule of one engine all the weekend, and if you change it... go down 10 places in the grid
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Originally Posted by 5vz-fe
it is very easy to fake an engine failure, or make the driver to crash the car.
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the driver will only have the job to put the car into 1° gear... give all the gas, don't change the gear and wait for the engine to blow |
No, that actually can't hapen. It's not that easy to blow an engine with an F1 car these days. They all should have board computers restricting that. |
And how hard do you think it is to add an "Off" button to said computer  
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03-16-2005, 06:39 PM
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I don't see the point of changing the engine now. This new engine needs to last for the coming two races. The "advantage" of having a new engine next race will be a disadvantage the race after that, because the other teams could fit their new engine. So what's the point of it?!
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03-16-2005, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by redbaron
I don't see the point of changing the engine now. This new engine needs to last for the coming two races. The "advantage" of having a new engine next race will be a disadvantage the race after that, because the other teams could fit their new engine. So what's the point of it?!
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1. To cut down costs
2. To reduce power
1. It's only made things more expensive
2. It hasn't reduced power, almost all engines are up on power over last years models
In answer to your question.... there is no point
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