Another Cars and Coffee Meet - GT-R, F50, Mosler, Countach and so forth

[yg60m]

Thanks for the pics mate

[Ferrarizzo]

Yes I know exactly where that Mazda dealer is. I'll have to go there next time I'm in Huntington.

[HeilSvenska]

I don't want to upload 120 pics on imageshack one by one. So I made Facebook galleries of the pics I took at the same event.

Cars and Coffee - Part 1

Cars and Coffee - Part 2



I was lucky enough to see F50 two times in my life.






Lancia Flaminia Sport Zagato. Most likely the rarest car at the show.

#1 out of 10 Roelofs Competizione conversions


Mad street legal Lola T70.






The original Dream car


ZR-1's snotty pushrod-less Lotus V8

[RC45]

Originally Posted by nthfinity no, this car is not the Nardo car http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...spagenameZWDVW This car's VIN is 1FAFP90S25Y400040 While it was likely periodically driven by Steve Saleen, it was not gifted to him; but one of two pre prod cars that SSV had... The said dealer (at least in the EBAY ad, and likely still... refuses to tell potential costumers that the car CANNOT be registered for road use; among other bits that should be declared... like it not being Steve Saleens car, nor was it gifted to him. He has been told as such, yet does not change his story. Also, the engine was not a bored out 4.6... but the 4.6 that was originally in it was replaced with a production 5.4 dry sump engine. The Nardo car was not either of the two cars used by SSV "PB1-1" - The Nardo Car * VIN: 1FAFP90S25Y400037 Color: Yellow with Black Stripes Odometer: 37,886 (as of 8/21/2008) Options: Forged BBS Wheels, McIntosh Stereo, Red Calipers First vehicle in the PB1 pre production build 1 of 2 vehicles (the other being CP15) to be taken to Europe for testing First car to certify top speed at 209.1 mph at Nardo, Italy Roll Cage Dual 5 point Sparco Racing Harnesses Development front cooling aerofoils First prototype vehicle to be driven by journalist in Europe (Cover of Top Gear July 2004) Vehicle used to support numerous track events Has SVT developed track alignment Vehicle used to develop Hoosier R6 track tire Roll Cage Dual 5 point Sparco Racing Harnesses Development front cooling aerofoils A/C Condenser removed for optimal cooling http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/im...ion/svt226.jpg http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/im...ion/svt277.jpg http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/im...ion/svt209.jpg This car is going for auction for charity in a few weeks under the same stipulations mentioned before. No road use is legal.

These terms are stictly to protect the seller.

This is no different to someone purchasing a large sheet of plywood, attaching an engine and wheels and driving it on the freeway as a special project vehicle as a private individual.

A determined person could get these vehicles all registered/licensed/insured for road use.

[nthfinity]

Originally Posted by RC45 These terms are stictly to protect the seller. This is no different to someone purchasing a large sheet of plywood, attaching an engine and wheels and driving it on the freeway as a special project vehicle as a private individual. A determined person could get these vehicles all registered/licensed/insured for road use.

The problem is this: The resale dealer is not disclosing this information in the sale.

[HeilSvenska]

^The reseller does mention that it's not street legal, but doesn't say what the buyer should do about it. And they drove it around anyway,

[RC45]

Originally Posted by nthfinity The problem is this: The resale dealer is not disclosing this information in the sale.

The key is just that - they are a reseller of the car - so unless they signed an agreement when they bought the car to promote the exact content and wording of the original declaration made by the selling manufacturer - they have no obligation past a "For Sale As Is" notice - and unless they imply that the car IS street legal, all they need is note that the car is NOT street legal.

The bottomline is buyer beware and be aware of what you are buying.

The legal ramifications are no more or less than the afforementioned sheet of plywood with an engine and wheels attached to it.

If anyone is to be liable and to be blame to bame for anything, it would be FoMoCo for NOT destroying the car in the first place -

[nthfinity]

Originally Posted by RC45 The key is just that - they are a reseller of the car - so unless they signed an agreement when they bought the car to promote the exact content and wording of the original declaration made by the selling manufacturer - they have no obligation past a "For Sale As Is" notice - and unless they imply that the car IS street legal, all they need is note that the car is NOT street legal.

the ebay ad said that there may be ways of registering it; which by implication is suggesting that it is street legal. Additionally, the ebay ad never said it wasn't street legal. Even after the seller was told as such, he refused to change the contents.

buyer beware indeed.

Sorry for hijacking the thread; the photos are great, and some fantastic cars 79, and heil!!!!

[HeilSvenska]

^I was wondering how that was going to work out, but it seems like the seller will dump the problem to the buyer, of which there are none.

Steve Saleen should've just kept it. These one offs are one offs, especially something that was personalized for him.

Anyways, it failed on ebay. $145,200.00. Reserve not met.

[Smartdriver]

That Daytona is amazing!!

Nice line-up!!

[HeilSvenska]

Originally Posted by Smartdriver That Daytona is amazing!!

Too bad it's not authentic. This particular one was converted to Competizione spec in 1985.

[79TA]

You make almost make it sound as if it were a kit car or something. It's still a real Daytona though, so I don't know what you're so worried about. RC's car is a real Z06 that wasn't converted to "Competizione" (read: insane) spec until now . . . hehehehe

23 potential years of racing isn't too bad for racing history either.