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11-07-2007, 02:18 PM
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^There's plenty of room in the engine for an easy fix.
I was skeptical about its looks, but this looks great!
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11-07-2007, 02:18 PM
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^There's plenty of room in the engine for an easy fix.
I was skeptical about its looks, but this looks great!
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11-07-2007, 03:55 PM
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It looks great, but Ford could have added a little bit more power.
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11-07-2007, 03:55 PM
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It looks great, but Ford could have added a little bit more power.
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11-07-2007, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gangajas
Mustang's rear suspension:
Independent rear suspension:
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That's a terrible representation of a solid rear axle. Remember all the girder talk? They don't just bend like that. A LRA car bouncing straight up and down will NOT affect the camber of the wheels. With IRS however, the camber can be affected if the bouncing gets too severe. For easy to see evidence of this, look at the wheels on a trophy truck while in mid air and right after landing. The effect illustrated in the gif is not what makes IRS superior. Find one that shows the IRS keeping one wheel stable while the other handles a bump or something. :roll:
Ford should do something about the power on their various special edition Mustangs. The quick intake/exhaust jobs don't seem like enough for the legendary Bullitt. I suppose it's supposed to defer to the Shelby GT though (which could also use a power boost. 340 hp?).
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11-07-2007, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gangajas
Mustang's rear suspension:
Independent rear suspension:
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That's a terrible representation of a solid rear axle. Remember all the girder talk? They don't just bend like that. A LRA car bouncing straight up and down will NOT affect the camber of the wheels. With IRS however, the camber can be affected if the bouncing gets too severe. For easy to see evidence of this, look at the wheels on a trophy truck while in mid air and right after landing. The effect illustrated in the gif is not what makes IRS superior. Find one that shows the IRS keeping one wheel stable while the other handles a bump or something. :roll:
Ford should do something about the power on their various special edition Mustangs. The quick intake/exhaust jobs don't seem like enough for the legendary Bullitt. I suppose it's supposed to defer to the Shelby GT though (which could also use a power boost. 340 hp?).
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11-07-2007, 05:39 PM
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Here is a beautiful picture of a IRS at work:
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11-07-2007, 05:39 PM
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Here is a beautiful picture of a IRS at work:
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11-07-2007, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 79TA
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Originally Posted by gangajas
Mustang's rear suspension:
Independent rear suspension:
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That's a terrible representation of a solid rear axle. Remember all the girder talk? They don't just bend like that. A LRA car bouncing straight up and down will NOT affect the camber of the wheels. With IRS however, the camber can be affected if the bouncing gets too severe. For easy to see evidence of this, look at the wheels on a trophy truck while in mid air and right after landing. The effect illustrated in the gif is not what makes IRS superior. Find one that shows the IRS keeping one wheel stable while the other handles a bump or something. :roll:
Ford should do something about the power on their various special edition Mustangs. The quick intake/exhaust jobs don't seem like enough for the legendary Bullitt. I suppose it's supposed to defer to the Shelby GT though (which could also use a power boost. 340 hp?). |
Not only is that bad example, it's the FRONT suspension. It's comparing Mcphereson strut to the double wishbone setup . . . for crying out loud.
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11-07-2007, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 79TA
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Originally Posted by gangajas
Mustang's rear suspension:
Independent rear suspension:
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That's a terrible representation of a solid rear axle. Remember all the girder talk? They don't just bend like that. A LRA car bouncing straight up and down will NOT affect the camber of the wheels. With IRS however, the camber can be affected if the bouncing gets too severe. For easy to see evidence of this, look at the wheels on a trophy truck while in mid air and right after landing. The effect illustrated in the gif is not what makes IRS superior. Find one that shows the IRS keeping one wheel stable while the other handles a bump or something. :roll:
Ford should do something about the power on their various special edition Mustangs. The quick intake/exhaust jobs don't seem like enough for the legendary Bullitt. I suppose it's supposed to defer to the Shelby GT though (which could also use a power boost. 340 hp?). |
Not only is that bad example, it's the FRONT suspension. It's comparing Mcphereson strut to the double wishbone setup . . . for crying out loud.
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11-07-2007, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 79TA
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Originally Posted by 79TA
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Originally Posted by gangajas
Mustang's rear suspension:
Independent rear suspension:
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That's a terrible representation of a solid rear axle. Remember all the girder talk? They don't just bend like that. A LRA car bouncing straight up and down will NOT affect the camber of the wheels. With IRS however, the camber can be affected if the bouncing gets too severe. For easy to see evidence of this, look at the wheels on a trophy truck while in mid air and right after landing. The effect illustrated in the gif is not what makes IRS superior. Find one that shows the IRS keeping one wheel stable while the other handles a bump or something. :roll:
Ford should do something about the power on their various special edition Mustangs. The quick intake/exhaust jobs don't seem like enough for the legendary Bullitt. I suppose it's supposed to defer to the Shelby GT though (which could also use a power boost. 340 hp?). |
Not only is that bad example, it's the FRONT suspension. It's comparing Mcphereson strut to the double wishbone setup . . . for crying out loud. |
Sorry, you are right, I took the pics directly from Google, I should have entered the page. Here is their representation of a LRA:
LRA with a Panhard bar:
Current Mustang's LRA:
Old Cobra's IRS:
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11-07-2007, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 79TA
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Originally Posted by 79TA
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Originally Posted by gangajas
Mustang's rear suspension:
Independent rear suspension:
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That's a terrible representation of a solid rear axle. Remember all the girder talk? They don't just bend like that. A LRA car bouncing straight up and down will NOT affect the camber of the wheels. With IRS however, the camber can be affected if the bouncing gets too severe. For easy to see evidence of this, look at the wheels on a trophy truck while in mid air and right after landing. The effect illustrated in the gif is not what makes IRS superior. Find one that shows the IRS keeping one wheel stable while the other handles a bump or something. :roll:
Ford should do something about the power on their various special edition Mustangs. The quick intake/exhaust jobs don't seem like enough for the legendary Bullitt. I suppose it's supposed to defer to the Shelby GT though (which could also use a power boost. 340 hp?). |
Not only is that bad example, it's the FRONT suspension. It's comparing Mcphereson strut to the double wishbone setup . . . for crying out loud. |
Sorry, you are right, I took the pics directly from Google, I should have entered the page. Here is their representation of a LRA:
LRA with a Panhard bar:
Current Mustang's LRA:
Old Cobra's IRS:
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11-07-2007, 06:21 PM
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cool diagrams/pictures
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11-07-2007, 06:21 PM
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cool diagrams/pictures
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