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Max Power · 01-05-2007, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by ae86_16v

http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=3572

It's all pure crap. Just go to www.highdefdigest.com and do some basic counting.

Blu-ray statistics:
CURRENTLY AVAILABLE: 108 titles
ANOUNCED w/RELEASE DATES: 56 titles

HD-DVD stats:
CURRENTLY AVAILABLE: 122 titles
ANNOUNCED w/RELEASE DATES: 30 titles

TOTAL TITLES W/ANNOUNCED DATES/RELEASED:
Blu-ray 164
HD-DVD 152

Stats (as of right now) from http://www.thedvdwars.com/index.cfm#1
Blu-ray only has 88 titles! WTF!?!? This is off by a solid 20 titles. Clearly they need to go out and figure out what Amazon isn't selling - or more accurately, what they have missed!

HD-DVD has 121 titles. Here it is, only ONE HD-DVD title was missed compared to 20 titles from Blu-ray. How is that EVEN possible?

The total number of available plus presales?

ONCE AGAIN: Blu-ray is listed as having 104 available while they actually have 164 titles with confirmed/announced release dates! It is off by SIXTY TITLES!

HD-DVD shows up with 155 even though HD-DVD has only announced/released a total of 152 discs. They are making up movie titles to give to HD-DVD to try to pad their numbers.

That site is wrong - flat out wrong. It is a lie and a pure misinformation that is so heavily biased it should sicken most people.

ae86_16v · 01-05-2007, 05:51 PM

^ So by my count, it doesn't look like HD-DVD is dead yet.

Max Power · 01-05-2007, 05:53 PM

An interesting piece of info:

According to whois.net:

Quote:
Domain name: thedvdwars.com

Registrant Contact:
Amzlists
Tony Small ([email protected])
+1.4253130412
Fax: +1.2065796487
4655 244th Place SE
Issaquah, WA 98029
US

Issaquah, WA is about 15 miles from Redmond. And a Tony Small shows up as an employee of Microsoft in the past.

haha

http://www.hdgamedb.com/amazon/versus.aspx

ae86_16v · 01-05-2007, 05:59 PM

HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray

Sales Last

Week: 44.50% vs 55.50%
Month: 44.94% vs 55.06%
Year: 61.13% vs 38.87%

Titles: 189 vs 194
Studios: 16 vs 15

http://www.dvdempire.com/

acmarttin · 01-05-2007, 06:04 PM

In the last 14 months I've never turned on my console worrying about any of this shit.

Max Power · 01-05-2007, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by ae86_16v

HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray

Sales Last

Week: 44.50% vs 55.50%
Month: 44.94% vs 55.06%
Year: 61.13% vs 38.87%

Titles: 189 vs 194
Studios: 16 vs 15

http://www.dvdempire.com/

Mmm interesting. Not sales ranks but actual % sales?

So HD DVD sold 50% more, being 33% longer on the market; but now in the last month Blu-ray sold 22% more than HD DVD, the turnover being between November and December.

Sales probably went an average of something like this:

sales % HD BD

may % 100 00
jun % 100 00
jul % 95 05
aug % 85 15
sep % 75 25
oct % 65 35
nov % 55 45
dec % 45 55
2006 % 61 39

Wonder what January will bring. % 35 65?

ae86_16v · 01-05-2007, 06:16 PM

^ We will see. . . we will see.

Again, you pointed out that EVERY MAJOR manufacture is behind Blu-Ray and Blu-Ray has majority of Studio support, and I just wanted to point out that you were incorrect. In fact, by the looks of all numbers, HD-DVD hasn't quite rolled over yet.

666fast · 01-05-2007, 07:37 PM

All studios need to learn a lesson from Warner bros. hybrid discs that work in both players. Problem solved.

ae86_16v · 01-05-2007, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by 666fast

All studios need to learn a lesson from Warner bros. hybrid discs that work in both players. Problem solved.

Yeah definitely. LG is going to introduce a Dual Format player at CES next week as well. Samsung also stated that if not clear cut winners will come out of this, they might introduce a Dual Format player as well.

RC45 · 01-05-2007, 09:39 PM

Well - back on topic, it lloks like withou an HDMI conneciton no 1080p XBox360 on the very large format projection TV's.

Best I will get is 1080i, and the sharpest looking is 780p via the 1380 x 768 PC mode display on the Sony.

666fast · 01-05-2007, 11:26 PM

I guess this thread is as good as any other.

Thanks to RC, I've decided that I need to swing my dick and get an HDTV. :p Only problem is, space and money. I don't have as much to spend as you guys, so looks like I'll be swinging half a pack of rolaids.

Anyway, any help or recommendations would be appreciated.
I'd like it to fit on my current entertainment center, the shelf is 32" wide and just under 30" tall. I'd like it to fit in there. I don't want to buy all new furniture.
Being that I'd need a TV that small, would 1080p even be worth it? From what I understand, the smaller the TV is, the less likely you'll notice a difference between 1080p and 720p.
At some point, I'll be making the switch to Blue Ray or HD DVD, or both if the dual format players are worth it. If I went with a 720p TV instead of 1080p, will I be missing out, or will it still not matter because of the size?
Obviously, the Xbox 360 will be hooked up to it and at some point a PS3. So, the required inputs for those will be needed. Being able to hook my PC up to it would be a very nice feature, thought it isn't a neccessity.

Anyhow, I'm looking to spend about $1500 Max. Are there even any 1080p TV's available for that?

If anyone has a recommendation, I'm open to suggestions!

RC45 · 01-05-2007, 11:43 PM

Well, $1500 on Tuesday at the local Circuit City would have bout you a 1080p 37" Plasma.

Remember, I bought mine for $1700 (regular price $3300).

Don't be afriad to shop around... TigerDirect.com also has some killer deals.

So if you stay around 32" you could get something of very high standard and quality for that price.

ae86_16v · 01-06-2007, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by 666fast

I guess this thread is as good as any other.

Thanks to RC, I've decided that I need to swing my dick and get an HDTV. :p Only problem is, space and money. I don't have as much to spend as you guys, so looks like I'll be swinging half a pack of rolaids.

Anyway, any help or recommendations would be appreciated.
I'd like it to fit on my current entertainment center, the shelf is 32" wide and just under 30" tall. I'd like it to fit in there. I don't want to buy all new furniture.
Being that I'd need a TV that small, would 1080p even be worth it? From what I understand, the smaller the TV is, the less likely you'll notice a difference between 1080p and 720p.
At some point, I'll be making the switch to Blue Ray or HD DVD, or both if the dual format players are worth it. If I went with a 720p TV instead of 1080p, will I be missing out, or will it still not matter because of the size?
Obviously, the Xbox 360 will be hooked up to it and at some point a PS3. So, the required inputs for those will be needed. Being able to hook my PC up to it would be a very nice feature, thought it isn't a neccessity.

Anyhow, I'm looking to spend about $1500 Max. Are there even any 1080p TV's available for that?

If anyone has a recommendation, I'm open to suggestions!

Generally speaking, no you will not see a noticable difference w/ 1080p @ 32". I am not sure there are many 1080p screens around that size. I think the smallest 1080p is a 37" Vizio right now. If I recalled correctly.

$1500 will get you something really nice. I am currently looking at the Sony Bravia XBR line, and that one definitely have one of the cleanest images around. Go to your local Circuit City or best buy and check out that display, usually they have a Blu-Ray demo disc playing and it is AMAZING.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-...-1.html?tag=ms
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/1080p/108...-it-213983.php

666fast · 01-06-2007, 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by RC45

Well, $1500 on Tuesday at the local Circuit City would have bout you a 1080p 37" Plasma.

Cool, thanks for the heads up.

Is it just me, or have the manufacturers realy made a mess out of this HD business?
HD DVD versus Blu Ray. HDMI, VGA, DVI, Component. 720p, 1080i, 1080p. Mind numbingly complicated HD packages from Comcast, Dish Network and all the rest. Over the Air HD. Xbox can't upscale without VGA, PS3 has it's problems. Recievers that can't pass HDMI signals. Firmware updates.

How is Joe Schmoe supposed to figure this out? Just plug in his PS3 and say it's HD?
:roll:

RC, are you subscribed to any kind of HD television package, or are you just going for over the air HD programming? I looked at various pricelists and it's obscene. Comcast in particular. I hate those people more and more.

Pimp Racer · 01-06-2007, 01:02 AM

Wont see much differences on smaller TV's but on bigger one you will. Check this link out for what I mean.

http://www.westinghousedigital.com/1080p_tour.html

Pretty damn cool man. I mean I never knew there was THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE between 1080i and 1080p!!!