New Corvette ZO6 pictures, info... Best Bang for Buck Ever?

[ikon2003]

^Yup, as brash as it may seem, I definitely think it's going to take away some serious marketshare of upper end sports cars stateside. I have a feeling there's going to be a long backorder for these new vettes....

[gucom]

HP, Torque, Weight, P/W Ratio, Saleen S7 575 570 2750 4.78 Ferrari Enzo 651 484 3254 5.00 Porsche Carrera GT 605 435 3258 5.39 Corvette ZO6 500 475 3125 6.25 Mclaren SLR 617 575 3858 6.25 Ford GT 550 500 3475 6.32 Lambo Murcielago 571 479 3650 6.39 Ferrari F430 484 343 3197 6.61 Viper 500 525 3410 6.82 Lambo Gallardo 494 376 3560 7.21 Ferarri 575M 515 434 3815 7.41 Mercedes SL 65 604 738 4550 7.53 Corvette ZO6 2004 405 400 3116 7.69 Mercedes CL65 604 738 4650 7.70 Panoz GTLM 425 390 3300 7.76 Aston Martin Vanquish 520 425 4045 7.78 Ferrari 360 Modena 395 275 3075 7.78 Porsche Turbo S 444 457 3505 7.89 Corvette C6 400 400 3175 7.94 Aston Martin DB9 450 420 3769 8.38

lotus exige 189 181(nm) 1929 10.2

DUNKiNUTS, can u explain what u based on to say the Z06 is overpriced? Is there any sports car that is cheaper and provide a better performance straight out of the factory?

well if u consider not only straight line speed but also cornering ability as performance...*cough*EXIGE*cough*

[jrummi]

DUNKiNUTS, can u explain what u based on to say the Z06 is overpriced? Is there any sports car that is cheaper and provide a better performance straight out of the factory?

well if u consider not only straight line speed but also cornering ability as performance...*cough*EXIGE*cough*[/quote]


It's true that my chart has no way to measure handling or lap times of cars. I wish I could go drive all these cars on a track and see what they can do , but atleast we have the Top Gear Power laps to somewhat judge laptimes.

They have a Exige time of 1:26.4 and a C6 Corvette time of 1:26.8. So the lap was fairly close and the corvette is quite a bit faster straightline. This corvette has 400hp, 400lb/ft torque, 3175lbs power/weight = 7.94

Right behind the C6 was a GT3 at 1:27.2, now the GT3 lap was in the wet if I remember, so its dry lap is probably a bit faster than the C6 coupe. This would make sense since both of their power/weight ratios are almost identical and the GT3 is about 130lbs lighter with full race suspension+ better tires. Also, the GT3 proved to do about the same laptime as a 2004 ZO6 which is a little faster than a C6 coupe. Also, factory drivers did Nurburgring times for the 2004 ZO6 in 7:54, GT3 with factory drivers was about the same at 7:55.

Its easy to knock the Corvette because its so inexpensive compared to everything it competes with, but the truth is that the car is amazingly fast, easy to drive, reliable and dirt cheap. Isn't that what you want from a Performance car,,,, performance?

Corvette is based on very good race performance. Laptimes is what they are all about, not straightline. Look at their C5R race program, in the last 5 years it was by far the most dominant car in its class, including Saleen's, Ferarri's, Lambo's, etc..

[RC45]

jrummi - do not bother trying to have a meaningful debate about the Z06 - these anit-US mutha-fuckers get their rocks off by attacking ANYTHING from the US.

The fact that I (and any other Z drivers) have yet to meet up with a stock euro-car of about $100K or less value that has even stood half a chance of keeping up with my 2001 385hp Z06 on the street seems to not enter into their minds.

I personally dislike the C6 Coupe because it is a "girly Vette" - and feel the C6 Z06 is a design and styling sell-out to accomodate the euro buyers - but I still recognize that this new Z06 is going to be a real force to be reckoned with - and will kick serious ass everywhere.

[coloradosilver]

If you're just looking at the car's performance without any other factors...Then yes, it will be a spectacular performance car.

But when you look at what your spending and what your getting, you'll realize that Chevrolet is really fucking it's customers.

I've said this before and here it is again:

The price is up nearly $20,000 ($30,000 after dealer mark-ups) from the last model. Because of this Chevy will be losing many loyal corvette customers. The low price and great performance was the Corvette's big selling point. Not that it lost half that equasion by running the price through the roof....there isn't much appeal to it anymore when you can have a slightly used 2002 911 Turbo for about the same price with Porsche quality, handling, reliability, and similar performance.

The new Z06, for having upped their price nearly 35% from the last model. And all you get for that is a measly 95 hp and bigger tires and breaks. The actual car doesn't cost Chevy much more to build than the last model. Assholes!! :fist:

And as RC45 has said "It's the ZR1 all over again".

[graywolf624]

nearly $20,000

Basing this on what?

According to road and track or auto week projected price is in the 62500- 65000 range..
Thats less then a 10000 dollar increase from where im standing.

And yeah the car does cost chevy more to build.

you get alot more then 95 hp..
try carbon fiber hood, magnesium frame, dry sump oil pump, 100 lbs lighter, stiffer suspension.

By your arguement you should be up in arms with porsche over the gt3.

[graywolf624]

It isn't great at all. Look at the SVT Cobra, have the cost and faster, better handling, and tunable on a budget.

1st: they dont make the cobra right now.
2nd: its not anywhere near as good a handler as the out going c5.. not even the z06.. Youve apparently never driven one, so maybe Ill give you the benefit of the doubt..
As for speed.. The c6 would beat it in that too.. remember the svt weighs 500 lbs more then the vette. The mustang chasis was simply too much of a hodge podge to ever compete in handling with a purpose built sports car like the vette.. It barely pulled off competing with the camaro(wasnt too far behind in acceleration but would get smoked in handling). Hopefully the new mustang is a turnaround, but since about the mid 80s the mustang hasnt really been considered a realative good handler or anywhere near best value for money in terms of performance. Albeit to its credit it is easier to live with then the more hardcore fbodies(lower egress ingress, rougher ride, the infamous hump)

*cough*EXIGE*cough*

Yes, but the you could drive the vette every day.. Id like to see you do that with the exige.
Its not the greatest car in the world.. but its probably the best performance for the money in a production car..
Why... cause they skimped on other things.. like interior quality.

[SFDMALEX]

Originally Posted by RC45 C6 Z06 is a design and styling sell-out to accomodate the euro to be .

And what makes you think that? Arent Europeans the ones who actually design the best looking cars. A lame excuse for the fact that Chevy can no longer make a good looking car

[graywolf624]

Arent Europeans the ones who actually design the best looking cars.

Do I need to start pointing out the european cars that were styled be american designers.
There are more then you would think..

Styling follows the in trend for the most part.. Its started by one success and goes there like sheep..

Id hardly argue that the new vette is styled like a european car.. To me it looks like the z06 and the viper mated.

[RC45]

Originally Posted by graywolf624 Id hardly argue that the new vette is styled like a european car.. To me it looks like the z06 and the viper mated.

Or - the C6 looks like it could have been designed after Bob Lutz moved to GM...

Wait... that IS what happened.

[ikon2003]

Somehow i see a lil 360 modena in it too... i think it's just the fact that i'm associating the vette w/ non flipup headlights, and my first impression is "modena shaped"

[SFDMALEX]

Its fucking ugly thats all I got to say...dont give a shit who designed it...

But I dont agree with the comment that its designed is aimed at the european market...

its like saying boxy, big, jiggle mobiles are for americans and stiff little econo box are for Europe.....

[RC45]

Originally Posted by SFDMALEX Its fucking ugly thats all I got to say...dont give a shit who designed it... But I dont agree with the comment that its designed is aimed at the european market... its like saying boxy, big, jiggle mobiles are for americans and stiff little econo box are for Europe.....

No really - they SAID they were going to do their best (with the C6) to go after the eurotrash money..

Which is ok with me.. the C6 has no mystique.. the C6 Z06 even less... and C6 Z06 beating power is easily achieved on the C5 Z06 platform.

[SFDMALEX]

Originally Posted by RC45 Originally Posted by SFDMALEX Its fucking ugly thats all I got to say...dont give a shit who designed it... But I dont agree with the comment that its designed is aimed at the european market... its like saying boxy, big, jiggle mobiles are for americans and stiff little econo box are for Europe..... No really - they SAID they were going to do their best (with the C6) to go after the eurotrash money..

Why would they sell it to those smelly, orgy embrasing tree huggers? It got a big engine and all...

Why not sell it to the good ol' rednecks and such. The money is not trashy, the cheap plastic linings will pass with the American market, and did I mention the plastic body? In America no problema

[graywolf624]

y, the cheap plastic linings will pass with the American market, and did I mention the plastic body?

What the heck does cheap plastic lineing or body matter? This is a performance sports car.. You want luxury go buy a mercedes.. The elise doesnt exactly have fine leather in its interior yet you dont bash it.. Remember the cars point.. To be as fast as possible for as little money as possible while at least being somewhat liveable for the occassional daily drive.
Hell.. think of it as a slightly more expensive elise with more storage capacity..
Heck.. wanna go through the other performance cars with shitty interiors that are great performers? The line starts behind the wrx.. we'll be here all nite.