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rob_e1 09-27-2004 11:28 AM

Pagani Zonda "Monza"
 
Great Paris Motor show article on pistonheads, includes some details on the Zonda "monza":

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pistonheads
"Beside the Roadster and the Zonda, Pagani shows the Zonda Monza. The Pagani Zonda Monza has been built for a customer in America, the AMG-Mercedes engine, develops 650 bhp, up from 600 bhp. The car is designed for track use only; after removing air-conditioning and other details, weight has been reduced by about 150 kg."

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...p?storyId=9159

http://www.pistonheads.com/pics/news/9159-094957-1.jpg

No.1 09-27-2004 11:39 AM

Re: Pagani Zonda "Monza"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pistonheads
weight has been reduced by about 150 kg."

... only to be negated by the fact the owner weighs close to 350lbs :P

This car is great, and such an unexpedcted request from an American owner too :? I didn't realise Americans took the whole track day thing seriously :|

Mopsdrops 09-27-2004 11:41 AM

Yummi :P super nice, even faster then it was before. But hoped for a whole new kind of a design. :? Another car as nice as the C12S.

Ford Capri 2.8i 09-27-2004 12:03 PM

For me always is welcome when a supercar is optimized in order to the maximum efficiency by reducing the weight of it, increase the power as much as possible, setting the suspension, brakes and differential towards a racing car model......such as every Lamborghini GT, the 360 CS, every porsche RS....the shame is though, that the car wont be launched in a few numbers as a road legal vehicle....the news is very good anyway

Chingachgook 09-27-2004 12:39 PM

Traxk use only ? shame, I would like a race version for the road.. the Zonda is very VERY fast like it is ... but .... I love power

rob_e1 09-27-2004 12:51 PM

It says its "designed for track use only" - doesnt necessarily mean it won't be road legal. I'm guessing (as dani_d_mas says) that if it was only for track use the customer would have just bought a race car..

I think its most likely a road legal car that won't actually see much road use, but can be driven to- and from the track.

Might be wrong..

bmagni 09-27-2004 01:39 PM

i like it, thugh the rims dont look too great...

any perfo specs bout it ?

DMbaseball1604 09-27-2004 02:25 PM

I want to cry, that is going to be an amazing car!

bmwmpower 09-27-2004 02:36 PM

old one has 1250 kg, new 1100, 1100-555
thats 504 kg / 1000 kg, great,
this is maybe quicker than porsche gt and enzo,

DUNKiNUTS 09-27-2004 02:47 PM

Yeah but now it has to deal with the Mosler MT900S

http://www.constantvelocity.com/index.html

mindgam3 09-27-2004 02:51 PM

should be stunningly quick, great car ;)

Although i think the interior was one of the main feature of the zonda, its a shame to strip it all out. Maybe the original with 50 more horses would be the best zonda ;)

number77 09-27-2004 03:17 PM

yep, Mosler's the better bang for your buck.
USA *chant*

sentra_dude 09-27-2004 04:55 PM

Wow, that was a light car stock, but 150kg later...that's as light as a Miata, but with 650hp! 8)

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Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
Great car! I like the windows, plastic ones as in the 360CS or the F40. And the wheels, much better than the road-legal version. The only problem is that, it's only a track-version, not legal for the road... and there is only one version if I'm not wrong. The question is... that american customer couldn't have ordered the racing model directly???

http://www.jm-fotoservice.de/lemans2...start/Nr61.jpg

Maybe he wanted a car in between the pure racer and the road car? That's the only thing I can think of.


Quote:

Originally Posted by number77
yep, Mosler's the better bang for your buck.
USA *chant*

Since when has the supercar market been about 'bang-for-the-buck'? :roll:

Toronto 09-27-2004 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sentra_dude
Wow, that was a light car stock, but 150kg later...that's as light as a Miata, but with 650hp! 8)

and mid-engined,

seems this car is like a zondaCS,
but i wounder if it still comes with a pope's shoes, or schumi's?

CMonakar 09-28-2004 01:07 AM

Interesting. Notice that the individual lights have small enclosures over them, whereas the 'normal' Zonda's lights are exposed.

number77 10-15-2004 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sentra_dude

Quote:

Originally Posted by number77
yep, Mosler's the better bang for your buck.
USA *chant*

Since when has the supercar market been about 'bang-for-the-buck'? :roll:

please look at the price of a mosler, then the price of this zonda monza. you really should think before you talk

heath 10-16-2004 02:41 AM

isn't the mosler the same thing as a saleen s7?

nthfinity 10-16-2004 02:48 AM

you see, i was thinking its interesting the re-worked front air dam/air splitter, and the elevated rear wing wich is a total re-design of the old (likely funtionless) wing cirtainly improved airflow is evedent.

i must wonder, w/out air conditioning... does it still have the optional exotic leathers from an ostrich? and luggage to match?

jon_s 10-16-2004 12:01 PM

NOw that is my kind of car!

I cannot wait to see one in the flesh! 8)

adamk24 10-16-2004 11:20 PM

Still no Mclaren... :mrgreen:

sentra_dude 10-17-2004 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by number77
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Originally Posted by sentra_dude

Quote:

Originally Posted by number77
yep, Mosler's the better bang for your buck.
USA *chant*

Since when has the supercar market been about 'bang-for-the-buck'? :roll:

please look at the price of a mosler, then the price of this zonda monza. you really should think before you talk

Did you even read what I wrote dude?

You should think before you talk. I asked a question...when has the supercar market been about 'bang-for-the-buck'...can you answer it?

The pony-car market is about 'bang-for-the-buck'...NOT the supercar market. Supercars have never been about performance per dollar.

I know the Mosler costs less...but so what? Do you think the buyer of this Zonda bought a copy of consumer reports and price compared? Do you think he cares that the Mosler costs less?

Pokiou 10-18-2004 03:14 AM

to me it looks like a enzo front on a Honda NSX rear ...

mrpushrod 10-18-2004 01:51 PM

Does it even bear thinking how much this cost its owner? Good to see Pagani doing such work should I run into a mountain of cash anytime soon although I would agree, the wheels are nasty. Probably very light, but not nice to look at.

skituner 10-18-2004 03:46 PM

very sweet i hope there is some kind of road test

SnakeBitten 10-18-2004 04:48 PM

Thank God for Italians...And I'm not Italian :) ...But damn they have an uncanny way of capturing sex on wheels..Just drop dead georgous....could this possibly the most beutiful, most exotic in and out Italian car ever made?

Paco 10-19-2004 07:57 AM

These are some pics of the Zonda stand I shot at the Paris show. Lovely cars:

http://img48.exs.cx/img48/33/100_0433.jpg
http://img48.exs.cx/img48/7969/100_435.jpg

sentra_dude 10-20-2004 01:43 PM

^^^Any more pics, those are great.

dylan99 10-20-2004 03:17 PM

It accelerates to 200km/h in 6 seconds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

number77 10-20-2004 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sentra_dude
Quote:

Originally Posted by number77
Quote:

Originally Posted by sentra_dude

Quote:

Originally Posted by number77
yep, Mosler's the better bang for your buck.
USA *chant*

Since when has the supercar market been about 'bang-for-the-buck'? :roll:

please look at the price of a mosler, then the price of this zonda monza. you really should think before you talk

Did you even read what I wrote dude?

You should think before you talk. I asked a question...when has the supercar market been about 'bang-for-the-buck'...can you answer it?

The pony-car market is about 'bang-for-the-buck'...NOT the supercar market. Supercars have never been about performance per dollar.

I know the Mosler costs less...but so what? Do you think the buyer of this Zonda bought a copy of consumer reports and price compared? Do you think he cares that the Mosler costs less?

i would like you to post the price of the monza and the price of the mosler, thats all i'm asking.

Paco 10-22-2004 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sentra_dude
^^^Any more pics, those are great.

I have plenty more of the Paris show, but those are the only two shots I made from the two Zondas. I was there the first day, so it was sometimes difficult to get a clear shot.

Ford Capri 2.8i 10-22-2004 07:46 PM

Simply....i agree with dani....for me the racing version of the Zonda is the best looking Zonda its wheels help a lot for the beauty of the car overall

sentra_dude 10-23-2004 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by number77
Quote:

Originally Posted by sentra_dude
Quote:

Originally Posted by number77
Quote:

Originally Posted by sentra_dude

Quote:

Originally Posted by number77
yep, Mosler's the better bang for your buck.
USA *chant*

Since when has the supercar market been about 'bang-for-the-buck'? :roll:

please look at the price of a mosler, then the price of this zonda monza. you really should think before you talk

Did you even read what I wrote dude?

You should think before you talk. I asked a question...when has the supercar market been about 'bang-for-the-buck'...can you answer it?

The pony-car market is about 'bang-for-the-buck'...NOT the supercar market. Supercars have never been about performance per dollar.

I know the Mosler costs less...but so what? Do you think the buyer of this Zonda bought a copy of consumer reports and price compared? Do you think he cares that the Mosler costs less?

i would like you to post the price of the monza and the price of the mosler, thats all i'm asking.

Mosler $210K (2002 Mosler MT900 Photon)
Zonda ~$400K

We don't even know how much this Zonda cost the owner, and who cares. I'm not saying the Mosler isn't cheaper, I'm saying no one who is buying a Zonda is going to give one shit that the Mosler is cheaper...you don't buy a supercar because its a good deal, can you understand that?

SPEEDKILLAR 10-27-2004 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dylan99
It accelerates to 200km/h in 6 seconds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:? :? :?

homemade wrx 10-27-2004 11:44 PM

Re: Pagani Zonda "Monza"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenumber1
Quote:

Originally Posted by pistonheads
weight has been reduced by about 150 kg."

... only to be negated by the fact the owner weighs close to 350lbs :P

This car is great, and such an unexpedcted request from an American owner too :? I didn't realise Americans took the whole track day thing seriously :|

I for one am kind of upset that you say this. I know lots of people who love doing track days...the only problem is over here they are so expensive, or maybe that's because I'm still in school. anyhow I would love to have this car for track driving. But because I'm still poor and predominately autocross, I will have to stick with a smaller car.
take it easy, Micah

evoWalo 10-27-2004 11:53 PM

I so want a Red Zonda... it's sooooo beautiful :shock:

Loops 11-01-2004 02:54 PM

Nice. The road going Zonda is already a hell of a car


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