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Old 01-14-2005, 11:37 AM   #46
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^lol, i think we just deciphered that.
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Old 01-14-2005, 05:22 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by nthfinity
These pictures show that the new Zonda will retain its elegant curves, but adopt race-car looks. A wider single-piece rear spoiler helps increase downforce by 40 per cent. Larger 19- and 20in alloys wheels hide bigger 385mm Brembo discs. Carbon-ceramic discs will be optional.
i think that Pagani must have done some wind tunnel research over the last few years, as there are some some segnificant differences... Mirrors as goodduck mentioned, rear spoiler cirtainly... but the spoiler alone causing 40% more D/F ? i dont think so... the previous Zonda had some major issues with the rear wing... some speculated that it was nothing more then a styling cue, and produces little to no D/F, which i wouldnt doubt.

reshaping a few key areas would likely be the result of more air assaulting the rear wing as its going 220 mph
i think the old one was more for rear visibilily. but if you add in the small gap, and angle it more, you can get 40% more downforce.
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Old 01-14-2005, 09:45 PM   #48
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Originally Posted by number77
Originally Posted by nthfinity
These pictures show that the new Zonda will retain its elegant curves, but adopt race-car looks. A wider single-piece rear spoiler helps increase downforce by 40 per cent. Larger 19- and 20in alloys wheels hide bigger 385mm Brembo discs. Carbon-ceramic discs will be optional.
i think that Pagani must have done some wind tunnel research over the last few years, as there are some some segnificant differences... Mirrors as goodduck mentioned, rear spoiler cirtainly... but the spoiler alone causing 40% more D/F ? i dont think so... the previous Zonda had some major issues with the rear wing... some speculated that it was nothing more then a styling cue, and produces little to no D/F, which i wouldnt doubt.

reshaping a few key areas would likely be the result of more air assaulting the rear wing as its going 220 mph
i think the old one was more for rear visibilily. but if you add in the small gap, and angle it more, you can get 40% more downforce.
At the price of drag of course. But you do realize that the new wing isn't the only thing they did to improve downforce, its just the most significant. The addition of the naca duct behind the front fender wells reduced lift as well as drag, and of course there are tons of other little tweaks.

I still miss the split rear wing though... it was very unique
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Old 01-15-2005, 01:19 AM   #49
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At the price of drag of course. But you do realize that the new wing isn't the only thing they did to improve downforce, its just the most significant. The addition of the naca duct behind the front fender wells reduced lift as well as drag, and of course there are tons of other little tweaks.

I still miss the split rear wing though... it was very unique
not nessisarily... if pagani actually spent some good research time inside a wind tunnel, they could reshape various elements to have higher pressure at the rear with little, or no parasitic drag tendencies... not only that, but if designed in conjuntion with the rear element, then chances are that the wing wasnt nessisarily placed at a greater angle of attack, which would cirtainly increase drag through 'stall' charactaristics... where a lot of the deflected air would be drawn back to the vacuume on the underside of the wing. i think they would have greater d/f if maintaining a weak angle of attack, as well as not infringing into wasted energy induced by drag. then it would truly need the extra power to hit the same velocities with the added d/f and drag
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Old 01-15-2005, 07:05 PM   #50
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^a nice option could be a completely removable rear spoiler (now that it's in one piece), a la koenigsegg. downforce when you need it, visibility/lower drag for high speed runs when you desire.
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Old 01-16-2005, 05:37 AM   #51
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Originally Posted by ikon2003
^a nice option could be a completely removable rear spoiler (now that it's in one piece), a la koenigsegg. downforce when you need it, visibility/lower drag for high speed runs when you desire.
That's a wise solution...Perhaps the only thing I like about the Egg.
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