Did you forgot or lose your car key?

[saadie]

wow .. nice lil handy tools ... thx

[BADMIHAI]

ZIEH-FIX®: helping car thieves since 1948.

[antonioledesma]

Originally Posted by brembo come on guys, if you need that equipment to get into a car you are no car thief....

for almost any car you can use a wire coat hanger... hi-tech my balls 8)

[Toronto]

Originally Posted by insane The site should be shut down.

you must not know abou the fact that you can go to ford, gm, honda, anyone and but a master key.
a key that will open everyone model of that car.
alot of repo men and road side help companies own these keys.

[ARMAN]

[BoneyM voice]Ohhhhh those Russians.......[/BoneyM voice]

I once read a little news about a guy who had lost keys to his 700 series BMW, they couldn't break into it without a key.

There are few old tricks for that called "le brick" or "le hammer"

Btw on the main page it says that it is a production of German company to open any lock and they will sell anything from it to you if you have documents(for car/house etc)

[RC45]

Just the kind of web site to use your credit card to buy some stuf...

[Refefer]

Heh, makes me nice and glad my car needs a microchip to start the engine.

come on guys, if you need that equipment to get into a car you are no car thief.... To this date I have not encountered one car I couldnt get into if I wanted to, my personal record are about 5 sec on a Opel..... :Laughing:

The amount of time it takes for me to break in a car changes on how fast I can find a rock

Now if you really want equipment, look up Hollywood... remeber all those gadgets they used in Gone in 60 Seconds? I wonder how many are actually real...

[sads]

I doubt any of this stuff would be use full on model cars say from 1995 unwards. Most of these tool look like their designed for the cheaper types of locks you'd find on smaller cars, I doubt any of that stuff would get you into a BMW or a Merc

[ZfrkS62]

Ford's aren't difficult to bypass the transmitter. I know that on the Expedition, if you disconnect the module, you bypass the required code and the starting system operates as a normal system.

This stuff won't work on BMW because since the E38, the only lock is on the driver's side and the tumbler is magneticaly coupled to the actuator. The only thing that will engage the tumbler is the key. If anything foreign (like a screw driver) is inserted in the tumbler it freewheels and will not work.

remeber all those gadgets they used in Gone in 60 Seconds? I wonder how many are actually real...

I don't think any of them are. European cars must meet certain anti theft requirements for insurance regulations. BMW met these with EWS III, 3.3 and 3+ which incorporates 200 random binary codes. After each start sequence a new code is used and stored in the key, engine control module, and EWS module. If the codes don't match up, ignition and injection is inhibited.

I'm pretty sure Merc and Jag are the same way, so that little module that Donny was using to get the required code would be pretty useless.

[SilviaEvo]

[Kip] I need my tools pop the trunk [/Kip]
[Black Guy] Thats not a tool thats a fucking brick!!![/Black Guy]
[Kip] Exactly [/Kip]
[Black Guy] Are you fucking crazy [/Black Guy]

all from Gone in 60 Seconds

[ZfrkS62]

Originally Posted by brembo Most often in one of the new cars the locking code is stored in the ecu or the instrument panel or both, what you need to do is crack the ignition this is basicly force use, then change the ecu with one you carry with you allready cracked often this will be sufficient, on some cars VW`s and so on you will have to change the speedo rev counter unit too, you just rip this out and plug a cracked one into the plug...then its just to drive off........... easy really, but dont do it I dont want my driveway to be empty.....

::starts digging out brembo's info::

That would be alot of work to steal car though. Theives dont' want to spend alot of time swapping out control units, especially when it requires turning their back to the open air and pinning themselves under the hood or whereever the ecu is located.

[ZfrkS62]

apparently audi hasn't figured out how to "marry" their engine control and ews units so that they can't be swapped from car to car

[ZfrkS62]

what do you mean "opened"? How hard can it be to lift a door handle