From 1958 to 1974 , MV Agusta had 17 !!! (got that?) STRAIGHT titles in the 500cc class only , and guess what , 2 stroke
ok? Where was Honda ? :roll:
About endurance races well

at TT , your beloved Honda , again it`s ruled by .....Yamaha

, and the non japanese bike at the 3rd pos it`s an euro one : Norton and that`s a good place
About Texas pacific group : they invested because it was a good business (or americans are dumb , and invest in a non profitable business ?) and in a short time they made a ''few'' bucks .
RC , I`am asking you : do you know the difference between DESIGNER and ENGINEER ???????
So ''If you are good - you win... if you suck - you lose. ''
Well Honda sucks quite bad now (MotoGp and WorldSBK)

, and you could have only one conclusion : they had all those titles because that Italian master was their title winning machine , when Rossi moved to Yamaha

:bye: Honda
Anyway we are Way OFF TOPIC because of :
''Too little too late...
Honda perfected the V4 15 years ago.. (and before that the V3 )
V5 is where it's at these days... ''
your reply that didn`t add nothing constructive to the topic , and you`ve tried to prove that Honda it`s better than Ducati
If I was in your shoes I wouldn`t have the guts to call that superior , because , as I said before , it got his ass kicked by an in-line 4 and a V4