Here it Comes - The CGT California Speedway Lawsuit

[StanAE86]

http://www.businessweek.com/autos/co...608_466074.htm

[TT]

I can of course understand why the passenger's wife would go down this road. Seems almost normal of course.
I can actually see the point in the first claim or the unstafe track or the one against the F driver, but the gibberish about "unsafe car" or " too difficult a car to handle at high speeds for the average driver without instruction." is too much IMO

[nthfinity]

"unsafe car" or " too difficult a car to handle at high speeds for the average driver without instruction." is too much IMO

right.

they are simply fishing for who/what will get them the most money.

[ZfrkS62]

they are banking on the odds that Porsche will find it easier to settle than fight it in court. Along with everyone else.

[DeMoN]

omg lawsuits everywhere.

[Sir_GT]

Personally, I think it's about time that people who buy fast cars should have the appropriate training anyway. Simply because their ignorance rarely involves "just them" when something bad happens.

I dont want Porsche to get stung, but I do think driver training should be offered for cars anywhere north of 300bhp. It will benefit everyone in the end anyway.

[loliea]

They were on a race track, thus they have sign a waiver that states that they are responsible of their act. As for the GT an unsafe car, they are going to have hard time proving that...
Who is next? Ferrari with the Enzo that crashed on open road at 180mph 3 month ago?

[gobs3z]

Yeah they signed a waiver, but if the track doesn't follow safety rule sto keep their track in proper running order, you can throw that waiver away. I thought they did give training to Enzo owners, didn't they get to take it out on Fiorano with an instructor?

[RC45]

Originally Posted by gobs3z Yeah they signed a waiver, but if the track doesn't follow safety rule sto keep their track in proper running order, you can throw that waiver away.

Thats the very nature of DANGEROUS activities.. the inherent DANGER.

The waiver should be iron-clad and rock solid.

Even if some clown drives a monter truck agains the flow of cars and crushes everyone to death - TOO BAD!!!!

That is what a WAIVER is for. It WAIVES the liabilty and puts the onus on YOU.

Hell -- if you are at a racing event watching and a tyre flies off and smashes your head in... the waiver on your ticket should mena "Tough Luck" - you hold no-one liable for your injusry - even if the tyre had no lugnits and was on a car driven by a dislexic bankrobber on crack who crashed through the fence from a freeway.

You are sitting in the stands watching - you have signed a waiver - you should have NO recourse.

This should go doubly for anyone who signs a waiver then drives or is passanger.

What went down is known as life.

These people should just live it once in a while.

:fuck:

[nthfinity]

Originally Posted by Sir_GT Personally, I think it's about time that people who buy fast cars should have the appropriate training anyway. Simply because their ignorance rarely involves "just them" when something bad happens. I dont want Porsche to get stung, but I do think driver training should be offered for cars anywhere north of 300bhp. It will benefit everyone in the end anyway.

300 bhp isn't very much; and would be a pathetic waste of money/time for some 300 bhp course.

having driving courses for cars that are true sports cars is something else... if you build it, they will come? mabey...

of course, mabey you are just used to 100-200hp cars?

Originally Posted by insane Now that I think of it, this is probably why a WRC event wont be hapening in the US any time soon. Even tho they probably put a waiver on the ticket, some nut would still sue if something were to happen.

BZZZZZZZZT
wrong

WRC doesnt happen because of the bosses thought that there isn't ample viewership here, and would be a lost cause.

there are hardcore rally events all year long with cars just as extreme as those in the WRC (and sometimes cars that were in the WRC)

if that were the case, prorally wouldn't exist.

[gobs3z]

Originally Posted by RC45 Originally Posted by gobs3z Yeah they signed a waiver, but if the track doesn't follow safety rule sto keep their track in proper running order, you can throw that waiver away. Thats the very nature of DANGEROUS activities.. the inherent DANGER. The waiver should be iron-clad and rock solid. Even if some clown drives a monter truck agains the flow of cars and crushes everyone to death - TOO BAD!!!! That is what a WAIVER is for. It WAIVES the liabilty and puts the onus on YOU.

I totally agree, but if facilities aren't up to the safety standard you pay for when you rent it out, there is definately some leeway on that waiver.

[TT]

Pike Peak comes to mind

As for the powerfull cars/courses issue, IMO it shouldn't be up to the manufacturer but to the pilot: you should be mature enough to know if you can handle your car and adjust your speed according to it (absolutely not talking about the infamous CGT accident now).
Silly ppl get killed every fucking day in cars with as low as 80-100 hp :bah: that doesn't mean their family should hire a lawyer to get money from the manufacturer because the car had the potential to kill and no proper training was offered to conter it :roll:

[RC45]

Originally Posted by Sir_GT Personally, I think it's about time that people who buy fast cars should have the appropriate training anyway. Simply because their ignorance rarely involves "just them" when something bad happens.

Hmmm - so what you are saying is that of all the accidents on al the roads in all the world... far more involve 300hp+ cars than any other cars?

So 65hp cars are never involved in accident? So drivers of 83bhp cars are never the cause for accidents?

So drivers of 299bhp and lower cars don't need training because they ave a stellar track record?

Originally Posted by Sir_GT I dont want Porsche to get stung, but I do think driver training should be offered for cars anywhere north of 300bhp. It will benefit everyone in the end anyway.

And who is going to offer this training? And who is going to pay for it? And how does this training benefit that 83bhp driver again?

No further questions your honour.. your witness councilor...

[ZfrkS62]

i have a better idea. Let's all sue the lawyers who file this crap and get the disbarred