BMW News (All news and spy shots here please)

[ZfrkS62]

i'm really curious as to how this system is going to work. Other manufacturers have been playing with similar systems and it seems to be working well for them, so hopefully BMW has this nailed down as well

[Bernardo]

About time to BMW have their "DSG".Can't wait to see it in action in the M3 and see how good it is compared to the others double-clutch gearboxes.

And btw...does this gear box will replace the SMG?Because whats the point to keeping the SMG if you have the DSG?

[Svensson]

Yeah, nice to see that BMW is also going the DSG-way, but I'd definately prefer a manual 6 speed myself.

The feeling of involvement with the car and the joy of nailing a perfectly executed heel&toe downshift just right, is far more important to me than being a few tenths quicker with the flappity-flippers. Also, I don't know exactly what this new Getrag box will be like, but EVO mag said that the DSG box tends to "ride the clutch" way too much, which would lead to wearing it out a lot faster than a normal clutch.

[ZfrkS62]

Originally Posted by Svensson Yeah, nice to see that BMW is also going the DSG-way, but I'd definately prefer a manual 6 speed myself. The feeling of involvement with the car and the joy of nailing a perfectly executed heel&toe downshift just right, is far more important to me than being a few tenths quicker with the flappity-flippers. Also, I don't know exactly what this new Getrag box will be like, but EVO mag said that the DSG box tends to "ride the clutch" way too much, which would lead to wearing it out a lot faster than a normal clutch.

if the clutch is still computer controlled, it shouldn't be an issue. the SMG clutch lasted about 30% longer then a standard clutch, so i would expect the same for this.

[Svensson]

^ Hmm I'm surprised to read that "ZfrkS62". But I still prefer the driver involvement of a manual box.

[ZfrkS62]

yeah, for city driving, give me a 6 spd, but for a track rat, give me the DSG/SMG

[blue8]

From Motor Authority:

Updates at BMW, more powerful M5 and new 1-series BMW is well on its way to becoming a full-line manufacturer with plans to launch several all new models in niches not normally reserved for the luxury marques. We’ve previously reported about a new 3-series based crossover and a possible M10 super-sports car, but we now have information about several new models due before the end of the year. Just around the corner are the new coupe and convertible versions of the entry-level 1-series, with both cars expected to get more powerful engines than the current hatch. A new 123d model will appear with the superb 204hp 400Nm 2.0L diesel, as well as a new 125i petrol version. BMW’s 286hp 580Nm straight-six diesel engine will appear in a new X5 3.0sd and will also end up in the facelifted 6-series coupe due at September’s Frankfurt Auto Show. After that, we can expect to see the arrival of the all-new E71 X6 crossover. Finally, the M5 super-sedan will come in for some upgrades. The performance saloon will get several additions to the interior, including a new heads-up-display system, as well as an upgrade to its 5.0L V10 motor to prepare it for Audi’s upcoming RS6. Word on the street is that it’ll produce around 520 to 530hp, but there’s no mention when the updated model will be released.

-- Great to hear that the M5 will receive a much-needed power upgrade!! They must have finally felt threatened

X5 M Sport Package:
http://www.netcarshow.com/bmw/2008-x5_m-package/

[Bernardo]

-FROM: Leftlanenews.com

BMW CEO: Production likely for CS concept 06/01/07, 10:35am, EDT BMW will probably build a production car based closely on the CS Concept, North American CEO Tom Purves told Automotive News last week. The statement contradicts a recent report by Germany's Auto Bild indicating the car would probably not see production. "Our dealers, having seen the photos, are very excited," Purves said. "They love it. […] If media and dealers like it, there's a good chance the customers will." The CS is "not a stretch or modified anything," he said, suggesting the car is both realistic and should appeal to mainstream upper luxury buyers. Purves says there have been very few cases of BMW not following a concept car with a production model. If produced, the CS would likely be badged as an 8-Series, according to various reports.

Good to hear that It will be "based closely on the CS Concept ".I just dont know about It to be badged as a 8-series.I was expecting something else, but I knew It was coming.

Anyways, good news..for me at least!


On blue's post above:

Good to hear also about the M5 upgrade..(and probably the same for M6?)but 530hp seems too low to compare with the 571 or something from the new RS6.

BMW has never disappointed me in performance wise, so I guess I'll just wait and see.

[thepest]

Originally Posted by blue8 From Motor Authority: Updates at BMW, more powerful M5 and new 1-series BMW is well on its way to becoming a full-line manufacturer with plans to launch several all new models in niches not normally reserved for the luxury marques. We’ve previously reported about a new 3-series based crossover and a possible M10 super-sports car, but we now have information about several new models due before the end of the year. Just around the corner are the new coupe and convertible versions of the entry-level 1-series, with both cars expected to get more powerful engines than the current hatch. A new 123d model will appear with the superb 204hp 400Nm 2.0L diesel, as well as a new 125i petrol version. BMW’s 286hp 580Nm straight-six diesel engine will appear in a new X5 3.0sd and will also end up in the facelifted 6-series coupe due at September’s Frankfurt Auto Show. After that, we can expect to see the arrival of the all-new E71 X6 crossover. Finally, the M5 super-sedan will come in for some upgrades. The performance saloon will get several additions to the interior, including a new heads-up-display system, as well as an upgrade to its 5.0L V10 motor to prepare it for Audi’s upcoming RS6. Word on the street is that it’ll produce around 520 to 530hp, but there’s no mention when the updated model will be released. -- Great to hear that the M5 will receive a much-needed power upgrade!! They must have finally felt threatened X5 M Sport Package: http://www.netcarshow.com/bmw/2008-x5_m-package/

Great news, love that new 2l diesel. And of course the face-lifted 6-series and the M5 baby!! yeah! M-Power

Thanks ofr keeping us upot date!

[jakaracman]

Originally Posted by ZfrkS62 yeah, for city driving, give me a 6 spd, but for a track rat, give me the DSG/SMG

And exactly opposite for me ...

[pitfield]

Silly billy, everytime I drive it's an involvement with me and the car, traffic or not, I can be bothered to press the clutch, it's not the difficult.

[HeilSvenska]

X5 M Sport... There's something very disturbing about this.

[blue8]

More on the M10 (from eGMCarTech):


According to a report last week, we all know that BMW is hard at work developing an Audi R8 competitor. While everyone is singing praises of the Audi R8 which, Jeremy Clarkson, says is better than its Lamborghini Gallardo brother, we’re wondering what BMW will come up with?

Well the folks over at autoblog.it are showing some Z10 concept images from an unknown source. The images are supposed to be an “idea” of what the Audi R8 fighter may look like.

The front-engine car is under development at BMW’s M headquarters and according to AutoZeitung, the car is expected to be called M10. We highly doubt it will be called the ‘M10′ or ‘Z10.’ BMW may just stick with the ‘Z9′ as reported before.

The high-end BMW sports car is expected to be powered by a modified version of the V10 engine found in the M5 and M6 which will develop 550 horsepower.

While the car is expected to be the size of the 6-Series, it will be much lighter in order to increase performance and aerodynamics. BMW hopes to keep the weight below 1,400 kg with the use of carbon fiber, aluminum and magnesium.

The car is expected to be priced way below the $130,000 price tag of the Z8, which we expect will be in the ballpark of Audi R8’s $109,000 to $118,000.

[Bernardo]

Those renderings look completely awesome.

[MIHALS]

Originally Posted by Bernardo Those renderings look completely awesome.

and completely CGT

but hey, if that will get to the production, then holly molly, I want one